Wolverine really does look like two Batmen kissing

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    Why do you think they are unnecessary? Do you say the same thing about violence scenes? I enjoy sex scenes much more than violence scenes and feel like movies just keep increasing the latter and decreasing the former.

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        As someone who too enjoys sex scenes in movies and doesn’t really get the hate for them - I really dislike (most) porn, and probably for the same reasons.

        Sex and intimacy are a huge part of human relationships. Sex scenes in movies show (and not just tell) those relationships, where they stand, how they develop. There is no real intimacy in (most) porn. Porn doesn’t tell stories, it doesn’t show human relationships, it just depicts body parts smashing into each other basically. Very rarely a porn video is good enough to suspend my disbelief so I can imagine the important, the romantic part of it and forget that I’m watching either the product of an explorative industry or the fetish of a couple who film themselves because they like to have themselves watched by strangers. But to show me the dynamic between two fleshed out characters, how it changes over time, and what relevance sex has to them - porn can’t do that.

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        There’s martial arts competitions and Kung Foo too. What’s your point?

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          Are you illiterate? Guy wants more sex scenes in his entertainment - if he’s craving it so much, there’s an entire industry dedicated to this.

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      Those scenes can usually be replaced with a black screen and the plot won’t be affected at all. On the other hand, violence scene usually still affect the plot though some scenes are unnecessarily violent.

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        So Tom Cruise goes to dinner at his instructor’s house, black screen, there’s incredible tension afterwards between the two of them. Maybe she served bad shellfish and he’s upset? Who knows? Saying sex scenes are irrelevant to plots is just ridiculous. Stop typing online and Go back to picketing schools about removing Shakespeare and Balzac and other lewd literature from their shelves.

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          They can still show Tom Cruise flirting and leading the girl to a room, just don’t show the actual fucking. You know, like what old movies usually do to imply sex happened. Showing the actual sex is just makes it awkward when watching with friends and family and totally unnecessary for most shows unless the entire point of the show is about sex.

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            You realize you could just read a book about it too? Their are creative ways to avoid showing just about anything in a movie. But this isn’t what the poster was talking about. They were talking about censorship with a black screen.

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              I’m not saying to ban all sex scenes from all shows, but when a significant proportion of new shows these days include sex scenes compared to shows from the previous decades, it’s clear that netflix producers just shoving them into shows even if it’s not relevant to the show’s plot. A litmus test for this is if you can replace those soft core scenes with black screen and the plot is literally unaffected, then sex scenes on that show would provide no actual value beyond fan service. Of course, not all shows are like this, but a significant proportion of them do these days, which is why a lot of people (inculding me) is getting fed up with them.

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                Most action scenes could be skipped aswell with a black screen and showing the defeated party dead or incapitated on the floor afterwards.

                Most landscape shots, portrait close-ups, or otherwise non-verbal scenes could be skipped entirely.

                Thinking about it - most movies could be completely omitted by just telling the audience the end result with a few lines of text on screen.

                Let people enjoy things. Just because you don’t care for sex scenes says nothing about them being invalid or unnecessary for other people.

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                  Action scenes and sex scenes are just not comparable. Watching action scenes usually don’t make people want to punch other people. On the other hand, watching porns makes either make people horny or uncomfortable depending on their situation. Also, you can easily avoid action scenes by not watching action shows. On the other hand, sex scenes has creep into all genres these days. Watching an alien movies? Boom, sudden sex scenes. Watching a docudrama? Boom, also sudden sex scenes. I’m not complaining if it weren’t for filtering out shows with sex tags basically filter out most shows made in recent years.

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                    On the other hand, watching porns makes either make people horny or uncomfortable depending on their situation.

                    For teenagers maybe. Most adults can regulate their emotions enough to handle it. I mean, if you watch movies with your mother on a regular basis just laugh akwardly over all the scenes she doesn’t want you to see and that’s it. With anyone else, why does it bother you if they’re watching with a smirk? It’s not like people break out into orgies watching a small sex scene.

                    I think what’s happening with people getting overly irritated with sex scenes in movies is, in last consequence, the habit of puritan self-censorship. “Oh, we shouldn’t watch that and be aroused by it, that’s so indicent. I will be embarrassed if someone catches me doing such a shameful thing.”

                    Once you accept how normal and beautiful human sexuality is, sex scenes become just that - normal. A realistic part of the stories we like to be told.

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        Yeah it’s a gen Z thing apparently. There is more of a demand for action, violence, and superheroes that cry. Suprising to me as I see romance as an escape from all the ugliness around us.

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          I’m a millennial but I don’t really like romance/romcom all that much for the most part unless it’s in anime format for some reason. For movies and even TV I generally prefer action, violence, thrillers, etc. I have no idea why, I think it’s kind of interesting that the medium changes my preferences so much lol

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      I have no issue with sex scenes in media. I also think the vast majority of sex scenes are unnecessary and badly done.