No 256-bit? If they really don’t care for highend I will likely have to buy a 4090 when Blackwell launches because it would be the only upgrade from my 7900 XTX. Buying Blackwell is unlikely an option because it will be horribly overpriced, especially if AMD starts to suck again. The XTX feels like AMD can finally have a hold in the highend again. It doesn’t need to outperform, it needs to outperform NVIDIA where they don’t: Pricing.
GDDR7 should be 50 % faster but yes, its likely reaching similar bandwiths. Unfortunately its a trend now to reduce bus size. 256-bit GDDR7 is likely almost 1 TB/s.
From rumours there will be N31 refresh highend as RX 8800 that should be around 20% faster than 7900XTX as a refresh it does sound impressive as a competitive graphic card its depressing. Lets hope nvidia wont go crazy with prices
Those were the rumors around launch, saying the flagship dies had issues and that they were going to be refreshed later for big performance gains, but I haven’t heard that rumor ever since. If AMD really had that much performance left on the table, I think they would’ve pushed to have the cards out this holiday season, and not wait until 2024, but I don’t think those rumors are true.
We can’t say until we know when the cards launch. Right now, the low-end has barely been updated since 2021. Navi 33/7600 is a very small update of Navi 23/6600XT. It moved to 6nm but there are no other relevant changes, because AMD did not increase the CU count and has utterly failed to make use of the dual issue shaders in RDNA3. That level is thus far more important to update right now. Say that AMD does that in early to mid 2024 and updates the high end in 2025. There is a new “7600XT” or “8600” with 48 CUs to fill the gap between 7700XT and 7600, meeting 4060 Ti more closely - that’s great. When Blackwell launches in early 2025, AMD can be ready to update the high end at the same time. They have done that before - after all, RDNA 2 was the only recent time that the they did the entire line on one generation (RDNA 3 has only done 3 cards, Navi 24 is a holdover).
Not sure I think that that is particularly likely, but please remember the timeline when people talk about RDNA 4. Without release dates, those predictions are worthless.
You don’t have to buy anything next gen if the performance of the 7900XTX is enough. Unless you want the best RT performance but if you wanted that you wouldn’t have bought from AMD to begin with. They can keep raising prices because of consumerism. If you always go to buy the next thing they can keep increasing prices because you’ll just keep buying.
I would upgrade if the expense was reasonable. But theres only one game where I could need more performance and that is Darktide. Otherwise I wish FSR3 became a thing, but just as DLSS is still lacks a solution to update older games.
First of all, those are rumors, and given how the leaker doesn’t even know if it’s 128bit or 192bit this late in the game when it’s been in development for 3 years and 10 months from release, it means the leaks are pretty much completely made up. RedGamingTech has a pretty bad leak accuracy record.
That being said, if it’s targeting 7900xt to 7900xtx performance, and it’s using GDDR7, then 192 but makes sense. It’s at about 7900xt memory bandwidth in total if you work out the math at 34 Gbps. Currently GDDR7 is aiming for 32 to 36 Gbps.
No 256-bit? If they really don’t care for highend I will likely have to buy a 4090 when Blackwell launches because it would be the only upgrade from my 7900 XTX. Buying Blackwell is unlikely an option because it will be horribly overpriced, especially if AMD starts to suck again. The XTX feels like AMD can finally have a hold in the highend again. It doesn’t need to outperform, it needs to outperform NVIDIA where they don’t: Pricing.
Probably not needed with the faster gddr7
Yes, a 192bit bus will be non competitive even with gddr7.
GDDR7 should be 50 % faster but yes, its likely reaching similar bandwiths. Unfortunately its a trend now to reduce bus size. 256-bit GDDR7 is likely almost 1 TB/s.
From rumours there will be N31 refresh highend as RX 8800 that should be around 20% faster than 7900XTX as a refresh it does sound impressive as a competitive graphic card its depressing. Lets hope nvidia wont go crazy with prices
Those were the rumors around launch, saying the flagship dies had issues and that they were going to be refreshed later for big performance gains, but I haven’t heard that rumor ever since. If AMD really had that much performance left on the table, I think they would’ve pushed to have the cards out this holiday season, and not wait until 2024, but I don’t think those rumors are true.
Literally haven’t heard a single thing about rdna 3 refreshes and with rdna 4 launching probably end of next year, really Don’t see the point
So a „highend“ gpu that is still slower than the current gen flagship? lol
We can’t say until we know when the cards launch. Right now, the low-end has barely been updated since 2021. Navi 33/7600 is a very small update of Navi 23/6600XT. It moved to 6nm but there are no other relevant changes, because AMD did not increase the CU count and has utterly failed to make use of the dual issue shaders in RDNA3. That level is thus far more important to update right now. Say that AMD does that in early to mid 2024 and updates the high end in 2025. There is a new “7600XT” or “8600” with 48 CUs to fill the gap between 7700XT and 7600, meeting 4060 Ti more closely - that’s great. When Blackwell launches in early 2025, AMD can be ready to update the high end at the same time. They have done that before - after all, RDNA 2 was the only recent time that the they did the entire line on one generation (RDNA 3 has only done 3 cards, Navi 24 is a holdover).
Not sure I think that that is particularly likely, but please remember the timeline when people talk about RDNA 4. Without release dates, those predictions are worthless.
You don’t have to buy anything next gen if the performance of the 7900XTX is enough. Unless you want the best RT performance but if you wanted that you wouldn’t have bought from AMD to begin with. They can keep raising prices because of consumerism. If you always go to buy the next thing they can keep increasing prices because you’ll just keep buying.
More performance is always good. RT is more like a bonus, I would like it, but I won’t pay double to get it. I’m running 4K120.
Why tf is you trying to upgrade when you got a xtx
I would upgrade if the expense was reasonable. But theres only one game where I could need more performance and that is Darktide. Otherwise I wish FSR3 became a thing, but just as DLSS is still lacks a solution to update older games.
First of all, those are rumors, and given how the leaker doesn’t even know if it’s 128bit or 192bit this late in the game when it’s been in development for 3 years and 10 months from release, it means the leaks are pretty much completely made up. RedGamingTech has a pretty bad leak accuracy record.
That being said, if it’s targeting 7900xt to 7900xtx performance, and it’s using GDDR7, then 192 but makes sense. It’s at about 7900xt memory bandwidth in total if you work out the math at 34 Gbps. Currently GDDR7 is aiming for 32 to 36 Gbps.