• Veraticus@lib.lgbt
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    1 year ago

    I do; do you?

    But of course what I’m actually doing is showing that posting pure statistical data, and then using it to make strong unsourced unattributed assertions, is very silly. If you have something to say, say it and post proof for it. A screenshot of number going up is meaningless.

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      1 year ago

      Except it’s not numbers going up, it’s statistical data about the US debt, such as the titled implied. In neoliberal right wing governments such as the one in the US, the way they fight this kind of scenarios is austerity policies such as not raising wages as inflation goes up, the lowering of the living standards of the working class, and so on, instead of making the actual culprits pay the price.

      This and the current trend of dedolarisation, plus the recent failure of China buying US debt, and a lot of other factors could indicate some bad times for the US economy.

      I think it would have been more useful if you would have asked about the consequences of unsustainable debt or some other thing related to economy, since none of us are experts probably, were we could have created a meaningful debate, rather than acting arrogantly. The title says what the body shows, what you can get from that data depends on your field of study, but statistical data is not useless numbers going up, even in something like Cookie Clicker mean things that can be interpreted.

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        1 year ago

        None of what you said is supported by either the screenshot itself or anything else that’s been cited by the OP (or anyone else in this thread). Even calling it “statistical data about the US debt” is overselling it since it’s literally just a screenshot and a link to a paper that (presumably?) the screenshot came from.

        Anything you mentioned would be interesting to talk about, perhaps with sources? Interviews? Anything? But no; instead we’re being told that the screenshot is sufficient context to ground any assertion we care to make.

        My point is the post is vacuous and any discussion around it unmoored from anything objective or of interest.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      The only silly thing here is claiming that the huge amount of debt increase is not indicative of anything. I recommend reading up on what this has meant historically to understand what to expect going forward.

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        1 year ago

        Why not post that, instead of posting screenshots of numbers and claiming it means whatever you want it to?

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            1 year ago

            In what sense is a screenshot with scribbles on it “world news?”

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              To be fair the web site does a terrible job at presenting the information since it only gives you a couple of of datasets at a time, so the screenshot makes it easier to see the difference. Although I agree that having the link in the URL field and the image on the body would have been better, I guess.

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                1 year ago

                What would have been better is … anything honestly. Any kind of interpretation or findings. Or, if that’s asking too much, even a vague thesis statement.

                This is definitional low quality and the OP should be embarrassed by it.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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              1 year ago

              If you don’t understand how US national debt going up by a trillion in a month is not world news, don’t really know what else to tell you. I just love how you’re sealioning here trying to act like you have a perfectly valid point to make.

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                1 year ago

                I’ve made it perfectly clear what else you should be saying: literally anything. An interview? An article? A study? Is a screenshot truly the limit of what you can offer us in terms of world news?

                I also have a perfectly valid point, and I believe I’ve made it, but since it seems to escape you:

                Your submission quality is bad. Do better in the future.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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                  Your only point appears to be that you don’t seem to understand why this is significant. The fact that there is a lively discussion happening with people explaining the significance to you shows that the submission quality is just fine.