Because they don’t get listed by browse.feddit.de you’ll want to browse https://kbin.social/magazines to browse “magazines”, which is what they call communities
e.g. [email protected]
or directly, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration
Why YSK: Federation literally just synched up thanks to the tireless efforts by @[email protected] over the past few days.
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done, thanks!
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That is so exciting, all of us playing together in here is such a cool concept.
Does this mean you are posting this on lemmy.world and I am reading it on kbin?
For those of us new to the fediverse, this is so exciting!
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Oh, i actually didn’t know Kbin (despite these posts lol) was being seen from Lemmy. Iirc when i first saw Kbin a few days ago, Kbin could see Lemmy but Lemmy couldn’t see Kbin. Ie it’s like it was a partial federation.
I’m curious on if that was accurate and if it was, what caused it in a technical sense. Given i’m a dev working on some ActivityPub stuff, i’m quite interested in it. Though i’ve not yet used the spec, clearly hah.
It was disabled until mere hours ago!
So does that mean I can see kbin posts in lemmy.world? I’m using the mlem app on IOS btw
It was blocked by kbin having cloudflare DDoS protection enabled to reduce server load. I guess that blocks federation.
Hmm, surely there must be a way to whitelist other instances you want to federate with so they don’t get blocked by cloudflare…
I’m sure you can do that in cloudflare but it’d require whitelisting every Lemmy instance that you want to federate with on kbin’s end, which is a bit much.
It’s super cool! My mind is now blown!
Wow this is neat!
How can I tell that a post is from another instance when browsing on Kbin? Just scanning the card for this thread, it isn’t apparent that it’s federated content.
If you have the top bar enabled, you can see it at the top on the right hand side.
@livus @CodingAndCoffee And now I’m replying to it from Mastodon!
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Oh good, it’s working again! I’m commenting from Calckey.
wow interesting. Mastadon has a decent app in place too doesn’t it? That might be the best usage experience for me actually. Mastadon on the phone, Kbin on a desktop. Especially if it all links up.
@waterbottleonashelf @CodingAndCoffee @livus this is what I’m sticking to as a replacement to reddit/app. I’ve been mainly visiting #kbin on desktop but now that it’s federated, a lot of magazines/threads I follow are showing up in my Mastodon app. This #fediverse stuff is great!
Yup, exactly. Welcome to the fediverse!
Oh, wow, thanks! I love it that my first inter-fediverse communication was you welcoming me, too.
I come in peace :)
Can we please call it literally anything else? I’m tired of “verses”.
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The backdoor of the internet.
A very deep hole to go into
…which is now open for business!
It’s late where I am. I’m still laughing though, thank you very much :-D
Welcome to the Federales
Thank you, much better
@iAmTheTot @CodingAndCoffee @livus @BreadDog It has been the Fediverse long before the other Verses came long.
Universe definitely came along first
@themz true.
Is looking at the username how you can tell where a post is coming from? I was so confused a while ago with posts saying “something something fellow Beehaw users!” and it was marked as (kbin.social) lol.
Yeah, that part is a little confusing. Because this is a link aggregation site, it’s currently set up to show the domain of whatever link is in the thread. But if it’s just a text post, because it’s being brought over here it self-reports that we’re looking at kbin.social.
If you have the top bar enabled from settings you can see where you’re currently looking at the top right.
I’m still trying to work that out too.
Total newb here, how does one collapse comment threads on the web browser version of kbin here? I’ve tried clicking around and don’t see some UI element or anything to indicate how to do such an action.
We don’t have it yet. Kbin is really new, and we kind of swamped the dev with our sudden influx. It’s on people’s wishlists though, so I’m sure we will have it in future!
@livus @CodingAndCoffee and I’m reading this on mastodon!
Amazing!
I was trying to do this on Monday and couldn’t, so I thought it wasn’t possible. But now, here we are, and here it is!
Jerboa seems to crash when clicking links with the ! point but I can do it from the desktop browser. This is great!
Smoothest crash ever tho!
This is being worked on on the Jerboa github. Sounds like it’ll be addressed or at least mostly addressed in the next release.
Glad to hear!
Had to try and it yep it is.
That’s looking at the bright side lol
“Good news everyone”
Vulcan is reading this from kbin.social
The federation is now active and hello!
This has been the most fascinating last few days. Hello Lemmy from Kbin~
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So cool ^^
Time to start digging through communities/magazines for places to be!Stop by https://lemmy.fmhy.ml and check out our communities!
Hot damn that is awesome
Just started adding subscriptions to kbin magazines and I think it’s starting to sink in that there is actually a decent-sized community growing here with a LOT more potential. The FediVerse being decentralized makes things feel a bit empty at first as it is now, but once you start hooking up to other platforms’ content it immediately feels twice as big. The trick over time will be cross-platform development efforts that make things look and feel more seamless.
Certainly in this case, because of how how much traffic kbin.social was getting and how long it was running unfederated.
Great news, thanks for the heads-up! Hopefully, though, we get some way to search both Lemmy communities and Kbin magazines through one browser.
Having to use browse.feddit.de and kbin.social/magazines separately doesn’t seem optimal.
yeah kbin and lemmy don’t seem to interact very well… having two separate hives that don’t talk to each other isn’t good for the fediverse, it creates unnecessary fragmentation :(
Seeing lemmy posts on kbin this morning has me so excited. I don’t even know how the R site can even compete with the fediverse at this rate
@[email protected] replying to myself from mastodon!
How…? I think my head just exploded. 🤯
What is a reddit thread if not a root tweet with a bunch of replies (and replies to the replies) formatted in a way that you see the organization of the replies?
I like this idea and the Mastedon app seems much faster to post… that’s really my only wish list item from lemmy right now. I’m figuring that’s a temporary imbalance of increase activity and server bandwidth/speed? I understand we are decentralized but so is Mastodon and at least my instance is very smooth and fast.
I can’t speak to Lemmy’s implementation (I refuse to go near lemmy on account of the maintainers “politics”), but there’s nothing fundamental about threading that should make posting slower.
Loading threads here is… different… work than loading your feed in mastodon, it’s possibly slower, but posting is from a theoretical standpoint the same. Probably you’re just seeing the effect of your lemmy instance not running on sufficient hardware (very understandable given the explosion in user space size).
Can you elaborate on the ‘politics’?
I sense something weird , especially with the hardcoded ‘hate speech’ filter, which seems to run contrary to federation.
Anything else I should know about ?
The two main devs seem to be Tankies or have at least close views. From what I heard, the hardcoded filter isn’t a thing anymore and was removed after heavy protest from other contributors. The good thing is that they don’t have any control outside their own instance and in worst case people would simply copy the project (since it’s open source) and move on without them. I hope that the different instances + community take a part of the donations to pay independent full time code contributors.
Thanks for the explanation!
The broad strokes are here: https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379
In addition to the more important issues that fedi-tips discusses I find their stance on anti-vax and US-election conspiracy theories… unappealing, which you can see being discussed here: https://lemmy.ml/post/143057
And that they haven’t been shy about exerting their power for political purposes. The hardcoded slur-filter was explicitly about discouraging “right wingers” (I put that in quotes because I suspect their definition of right wing and mine differ), and they at least use to be open about their intentions to moderate the instances that they run as explicitly “left wing” (though I don’t see a reference to that on the current site).
Oh man , that is disappointing.
I’m certainly not a ‘right-winger’ , but i hate the idea of arbitrary, centralized control of what ‘hate speech’ means .
That doesn’t sound ‘federated’ to me!
@AshDene @[email protected] @[email protected] @Zerlyna @mr_jp I haven’t read what’s in the link yet, but if what you’re saying is accurate then it is worrying. Fortunately kbin exists, where I think you are right now
It better be BlackCoffee ;)
Testing replying from kbin.social
Yup, it’s federating successfully.
Thank you!
That explains why I’ve been seeing some people saying “magazine”
I wish Kbin and Lemmy could agree on a format for linking communities
Hey, can you folks at Lemmy see this post from kbin.social yet?
yes
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this also works for other stuff using activitypub as well btw, not just lemmy but also platforms like mastodon, peertube etc
I can!
I’m able to see it.
Yes, I can.
I tried joining some kbin magazines from here (E.G: https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected] and https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected] ). It did work but I’m unable to see any post from those communities. Instead the one you linked ( https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected] ) works perfectly (even for newest posts/comments). Is there any fix ? EDIT: To add more troubleshooting info, It doesn’t say pending, it correctly says “joined” but still no posts.
The federation/sync of content seem to be slow and work on the newest posts first.
First time I checked https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected] I only saw one post but now there are four.
And a whole lot more at the original: https://kbin.social/m/CatsYeah but I got to c/Vancouver for example but idk how to subscribe from kbin as I don’t see a button from that :/
