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      I’m all for clean energy but it should be converted as the old system hits end of life.

      We don’t have time for that unfortunately. We are way behind pace for transitioning to clean sources (including nuclear).

      I also wish democrats would stop focusing on things like gas stoves. Jesus that is stupid. Gas is superior for cooking

      The culture only thinks that gas is better because fossil fuel companies saw the writing on the wall and wanted to get yet another foot in the door. So they started a massive campaign advertisement campaign to make people think it’s better. If people ran gas lines to their houses, the chances of them using gas to heat their homes increased, making money for the fossil fuel industry.

      I’ve cooked on both, they’re not any different cooking wise tbh.

      And democrats aren’t really focusing on it. It’s a side issue at most. I’ve seen maybe 4 articles on it from leftist subs in the last few years.

      But the argument to get rid of them is there, because they are terrible for home air quality. My girlfriend has asthma and it is such a fucking life saver to be able to use an electric one without killing her. Reducing dependence on fossil fuels is a good side benefit as well.

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        But the argument to get rid of them is there, because they are terrible for home air quality. My girlfriend has asthma and it is such a fucking life saver to be able to use an electric one without killing her

        And that was already an option. Nobody was saying that electric stoves were banned. Let people make their own decisions about their own homes

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      Yes, nuclear, wind, solar, tidal, hydro and geothermal - so many great ways to help solve the climate crisis.

      I dont see any democrats focussing on gas stoves, and certainly not because of climate issues - I do recall, Richard Trumka Jr., one commissioner (of seven) of the CPSC saying “Any option is on the table. Products that can’t be made safe can be banned” in regards to indoor safety of gas appliances.

      Because no one wants to be harmed by faulty or poorly installed gas stoves now, do we?

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          Chernobyl was a product of communism

          No, Chernobyl was a result of bad engineering. And bad engineering can happen regardless of your chosen economic system.

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          My mother once banned me from my Nintendo. It was harsh, but I don’t think it’s fair to say that all mothers are focussing too much on banning me from Nintendos. I realise you are no fan of the democrats, but let’s not allow anecdotes to take the place of facts and stats.

          https://pitlochry-scotland.co.uk/local-walks/pitlochry-dam-and-fish-ladder-walk.php

          Here is an article about a salmon ladder in scotland that has been in operation for 71 years! And only one of many such successful salmon ladders across the world! Wonderful stuff, and the fish are doing great. Maybe the private enterprises are doing a poor job of constructing the ladders? Hopefully the government will step in to regulate better ladders in the USA, as it is clearly falling behind in its commitment to the wellbeing of the salmon.

          And finally, what about three mile island? fukushima? I am well aware of the shortcomings of the RBMK reactors of the generation used in the Chornobyl NPP, however nuclear meltdowns do not seem to directly correlate to how much communism is fed into the reactor. The problem was a cheaply designed reactor core and the use of graphite on the cooling rods, in essence it was penny pinching and a poor understanding of the technology, which can happen anywhere.

          edit: so many typos and some grammar, and adding a link I forgot :D

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              Do all successful reactors melt down? Sorry that wasn’t fair, but I think you can agree that a melt down can hardly be considered a success just because it didn’t fail as badly as Chornobyl :D

              Nuclear Power is generally safe, on this we agree, I just think you are letting your feelings about the scary soviets affect your opinions about what was a genuinely sad event which should not be made light of.

              Overfishing does not sound like salmon ladders failing to me, it sounds like a very obvious failure of capitalism and the greed it inevitably engenders. Have a great night <3

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            And finally, what about three mile island? fukushima?

            Nothing really came out of three mile, and Fukushima was the result of natural disasters compounding beyond the scope of what was prepared for