Even with 12GB of VRAM would 3070/ti be so much better! And 3080 with 16-20GBs as well would be a much more viable card today.

I believe 3XXX series of Nvidia would have been stellar, if 3060ti and 3070/ti had at least 12GB and 3080/ti 16GB of VRAM. Owners of these would have almost zero incentives to upgrade them which is why Ngreedia gimped these GPUs on VRAM. Both sad and horrible decision.

Would be nice to see benchmarks of those 3080s with 20GB of vram.