Elite is subjective. You have your ideas and I have mine and I have no reason to try and convince you. ✌️

You’re making good points but I disagree with: “So far there is nothing to suggest that Arteta doesn’t like Ramsdale other than how he answered a post-game question”

The mere fact that Ramsdale was replaced, despite just signing a contract and coming off a good season, is no small evidence of a souring. He’s told Ramsdale and the fans that there would be a competition for places, which has not happened in a meritocratic fashion. He did this because of course he wants both of them in the squad, but it is clear to me at least that there is a no. 1 at arsenal, good games from Rambo or bad games from Raya won’t impact who starts the next one.

I want nothing but the best from Arsenal and Raya, and if at the end of the season we look back and say that bringing Raya in made us stronger and more successful, then I will be very happy. But so far it seems to me only to have unsettled both players and failed to bring out the best in either.

2 elite keepers sounds nice on paper, but if it actually made teams better you’d see City, Chelsea, and all the other money clubs splashing the cash on backups and rotating them, and I can’t recall much evidence of that strategy working.

I dunno, I thought the parallels between Ramsdale and other players in the past who Arteta had soured on were points well made by andrew and James. Just my opinion.

For everything Arteta said about there being a competition for the #1 spot, that competition hasn’t happened. I think they’re just fans of Ramsdale and see the decision as being really harsh on him and having potential to cause a rift. Rambo is being a total pro about it. Arteta is occasionally irate at the questions about the #1 spot, but it’s a rod he’s made for his own back by bringing in a new #1 but telling everyone “no we have two great goalies who will both play” which was just a nice sounding fib.

Good discussion today of the Ramsdale/Arteta dynamic at the moment