No, that is not what I am arguing for.

I am saying a large minority of this forum to do not agree with your views. It’s not three people.

I never asked you to start a project to quantify anything. I am just pointing out that your statement “all of YPTB (less three individuals) agrees with me” is factually incorrect. It is not a small minority, that is clear.

Your claim that only people who got banned by BLZ disagree with you is also wrong.

Thanks for the context.

Now I truly understand why the individual was referred to as a clown. 🤣

Got it.

Yeah, I guess most of what I listed does fall under trolling.

I just hope other instances don’t follow BLZ on this issue. It is completely unjustified.

I have, yes. Nothing about the statement implies Pondercat is full of shit (i.e. lying).

Because if the text is correct, the argument that you want to prevent brigading isn’t relevant anymore. If the text is incorrect and one is concerned about brigading, then one would openly let everyone know that Pondercat has the wrong text.

They don’t. Read the text carefully. The use of “it” doesn’t seem to be in relation to trans women.

I agree it confusing, but the use of it seems to be more general. Note how the rest of the text doesn’t use such a construction.

Sorry, who is Leni?

I wouldn’t leave it to just trolling and illegal stuff. Spamming obvious propaganda, shitting up a digital space with dumb bullshit (doesn’t have to political, just distracting and irrelevant), commercial spam, baiting users to piss them off. There are many situations were mod actions are justified.

But this is definitely not the case.

How is this relevant?

Did you read the alleged offending text? It’s not transphobic, let alone Nazi.

Did you even read the text?

What does a censure imply? Would it also include the offending comment (a possible copy of which has already been shared).

Surely you can’t just call for broad defederation (if that’s what censure implies) without actually providing hard evidence?

Ah, I see. Cheers!

No, your claim that everyone in YPTB agrees with you is factually incorrect. You could say a solid majority, but not everyone.

All you’ve shown is that the people who disagree are less inclined to downvote. The vote ranges seem to imply a 1/3 (disagree) vs 2/3 (agree) split.

HAL-5700X had ~60 downvotes, db0 had ~60 upvotes.

There is clearly a strong minority that disagrees. It’s no where close to what you’re trying to imply.

You’re welcome to assume bad faith or not bother, it’s your right.

The fact remains, you don’t know whether Pondercat is full of shit or not. You don’t have any evidence and you are not interested in interacting with Pondercat.

"Prevent brigading” is irrelevant at this point, the text is out, so you cannot prevent brigading if it’s real. So the question about transparency remains.

Pointing out clear lapses in logic is not “sowing division”.

Not sure what you are referring to.

I am pointing out that there is a decent amount of pushback, both in voting and comments. The framing that the whole (or even an overwhelming majority) of YPTB is aligned with a single view is factually incorrect.

This is a pretty simplistic, almost child-like take.

You can recognize the self-interested nature of the US, while also pointing out how they are not being efficient for their own goals (that also benefit us).

But you didn’t ask the user how he got it! Surely before claiming that he is full of shit, you could have spent ~10 seconds typing out, “what is your source?” I didn’t see you do that in piefed thread.

Not even feddit.uk’s users, the admins there have the context and if they decide to share it is up to them.

BLZ can do whatever, but others are also allowed to make their own conclusions about the possible reasons for the lack of transparency.

That’s not out of this world for the type of tech that is being discussed, especially considering costs in the US are very high.

But the people of YPTB disagree.

That’s not true. The first post by HAL-5700X is at +29 / - 56, so about a third agree.

Kolanaki’s following statement:

Defederating an entire instance over the actions of a single user instead of simply banning that user along with creating a post to bring it up but not actually discuss it is just the kind of extreme reaction I expect from Ada.

is at +33 / -29 and that’s without the text that prompted the defederation being revealed in this thread.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/36737764/18213591

If the text was available, chances are the reaction might have been very different.

Even FauxLiving’s post stating the following (exert, not the full post) is at +18 / - 30.

Blahj is a problem instance.

The important distinction here is that they’re not simply trying to moderate their communities. They’re free to moderate their communities for their users. They want to push their rules on other instances.

They’re not free to dictate to the greater social media space the acceptable policies on discourse. Their admins are constantly trying to enforce their ban lists on other servers and communities (or else, you see what happened to feddit.uk).

A large minority of YPTB aren’t aligned with your opinion.

Ada also pretty clearly stated why she didn’t link to the offending content: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/14101300 in that she didn’t want to start a brigade, which I honestly think is pretty upstanding behaviour on her part. As well, I don’t see where the actual content has been linked, so I think the commenter above you might be full of shit, unless they can give a source.

How do you know the poster is full of shit? You didn’t even ask for the source.

Also defederating from an instance while not including the actual offending content is not very transparent.

Blahaj.zone can do whatever they want, but to try and imply that the admins of feddit.uk (and users) are transphobic over this text is madness.

Respect to feddit.uk admins for not bowing to down to bullying.

But also defederate an instance because their admins don’t comply their own rules doesn’t feel wrong.

Read the “offending” text:

https://sh.itjust.works/post/36737764/18213591

This is hardly transphobia.