You can only turn it off until you can’t. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Well, it was fixed regardless ^^

If they actually do that, great. Nothing against that. I just have an inherit distrust towards fortune 500 companies

The notifications contain the wrong amount of members for the subreddit, they all say 5k and below ^^ Not that it really matters, just FYI

That is good for apple users. Does that include meta-data? Locations, timestamps and the likes?

Well, thank you for clarifying. I was not aware of what exactly apple or google where communicating regarding their platforms.

I am aware that it’s local, i just assumed it would also call home.

My threat model here is based on cases like this: https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/21/23315513/google-photos-csam-scanning-account-deletion-investigation

And yes, i did see it as a privacy issue, not a censorship one. Inevitably, if this finds the pressure to expand it towards other content, it could be a problem comparable to the “Article 13” Europe was, or is, facing.

Generally, blocking specific types of content is a valid option to have. As long as it is an option, and the user knows it is an option. I just distrust it coming from the likes of google or apple.

If you think about it, apples privacy reputation doesn’t matter to begin with. First, it’s just a reputation. It’s what they claim, not necessarily what they do. They are a multi trillion dollar tech giant, you don’t get there with honesty. But regardless, imagine their reputation goes down the drain. The consensus of “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear”, the ability to claim everything being to “protect the children” (or, related, “protect the country form terrorism”) all negate the necessity for that reputation. As sad as it is, most people don’t think too much about privacy, at least not in regards to modern technology. People will still buy their products and be part of the ecosystem. Apple is a luxury brand, their products used as status symbols, their most loyal customers are essentially a cult and for many it’s all they know. That is, if such a case gets big enough to “go viral”.

It’s something that not talked about, which, given our data-obsessed world, i interpret as “we just do it by default (because nobody will complain, it’s normal, yada yada)”.

Besides, it’s stated that the scanning itself does only happen on your device. If you scan locally for illegal stuff, it’s not really far fetched that someone gets informed about someone having, for example, CSAM on their device. Why else would you scan for it? So at the very least, that information is collected somewhere.

So more scanning of arbitrary data for the sake of sanctimonious reasons, and definitely not for the sake of collecting data. I’m curious what is send where regarding those scans. There has been a scandal regarding amazon and those ring cameras. That software might run on the device, but whatever detection it’s using is bound to make mistakes, and who sees the results? Is everything fully automated? Or human verified? I don’t know which one would concern me more. Not even talking about young people taking photos of their body for various reasons. And just because it runs on your device does not necessarily mean that whatever is scanned is never sent anywhere. It just means that the scanning happens on your device.

Quite frankly, if it wasn’t horrible i’d find the idea of some secret ring inside of apple using that CSAM-detection to collect material to sell on the dark net rather interesting. Might make an interesting plot for a thriller or novel…

First.

But seriously, i am really curious how this whole shebang will turn out. Some subs will go dark for 2 days, which will probably result in not very much. But what about the exodus when the third party launchers will go down. How many will just suck it up and use the official app? How many will actually migrate? Will reddit kneel to the community? Time will tell. Grab some popcorn and enjoy the show!