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Cake day: June 11th, 2023

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  • …Just says there’s a transponder that’s supposed to judge if there was movement. It says nothing about how said transponder achieves that judgement. It doesn’t simply senses movement as you astutely pointed out the car very obviously moved. That means it needs a reference point.

    So Is it gps? Is it an accelerometer? Is there another sensor on the grid it has to cross? Is it telemetry? Why is there this much wiggle room?





  • Yep that’s exactly my concern. This seems abusable. Drivers could theoretically stop further back from the grid and use that distance to get the car rolling before fully dropping the clutch, limiting tire slip. Someone posted the rules about grid placement and while there is a rule against sideways position or angle, there isn’t anything about being further back. It’s probably not going to happen but I personally would try that short rolling start in practice just to see.


  • I’m not so sure about your second point. He might have set up further back (probably unvoluntarily) so even when he jumped he didn’t cross the limit of the grid box. This would also mean that they didn’t have any infringement on the rules you posted so they couldn’t just give him a penalty.

    I remember some years ago it was possible to measure drivers reaction time at the start. I remember Bottas even had an almost impossible reaction of a couple thousands of a second, he probably got lucky but it still was after the reds went out. So how about using clutch release telemetry or wheel speed sensors data and compare that to exactly when they shut the lights? If that difference is anywhere under 0.000, you jumped. It would still be incredibly hard to judge while not allowing any form of movement before the lights are actually out.




  • I agree that it was detrimental to him this time around since he lost focus and actually started far after the others because of it. I’m still interested in seeing if the decision was made because he actually fucked his own start or if it was because the sensors didn’t detect the jump though. If it’s the sensors I believe it could open pandora’s box as it would be a definitive advantage to get even the slightest of rolls before dropping the clutch.


  • Brings back memories. H22 swapped EG and EK’s were the “cheaper” way to pump over 200hp back in 2007-08 where I live. That was in the times when we started to get JDM TypeR engines but those were often more expensive than the car they were put in. So many people either went the B20 Frankenstein version (CR-V block with GSR head mostly) or H22 since these were domestic and almost half price from ITR or CTR drive trains. I remember seeing ONE K swapped civic, they were unicorn rare in those days.