If there were an occasional thing where I looked at it and thought “wait, is this Loss?” that would be funny. But I see them way too frequently for them to be funny. They need to be subtle and occasional, taking one off guard. Instead they’re frequent and unsubtle.
Yeah, Arch isn’t exactly an easy install for beginners.
This is why we should be ranching echidnas.
I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to reveal to the world that your butt is an outie
Can confirm. I once ate in my lab and accidentally ate a capacitor I absent-mindedly thought was a piece of broccoli.
Lol imagine a canonical employee using nixos
Fun is scheduled between 10:00 and 14:30.
Surely it’s named after the octets it edits?
Yessss! I can’t wait to get the new Kubuntu beta!
And they’re providing Ubuntu for free. If you were a paying customer and the contract you’d signed with them said they’d provide Firefox as a deb, that would be a different situation.
I agree, but unfortunately our opinions don’t move a gazillion finance bros
over the course of a few updates, they replaced half of your programs with snaps (without telling you),
You don’t need to lie. A full list of debs that have been transitioned to snaps is:
as you can see on other comments I’m not alone with that stance.
Being in the majority doesn’t necessarily make one right, as shown by [insert election result you disagree with here]. But if you actually are serious about that, you do realise how entitled it sounds to demand that someone do free work for you in the particular way you want it done?
And I believe you mean prerogative.
Because the separate installation means you can actually end up with both an apt installed and a snap installed.
This is something that can happen any time you have multiple package managers or even multiple repositories in the same package manager. Google’s official Chrome apt repo has debs for google-chrome-stable, google-chrome-beta and google-chrome-unstable, quite intentionally.
My comment about docker was a specific example of such a case, where vulnerabilities were introduced. It was actually a commonly used attack a few years ago to burn up other CPU and GPU to generate crypto
Can you provide a link to a source about that? I can’t find anything about it.
and you ended up with both a snap and apt installed docker
If you installed both the docker.io package from apt and the docker snap, yes you wound up with both. Just as if you install both google-chrome-stable and chromium you’ll end up with two packages of (almost) the same browser.
The fact that they are both packaged by Canonical is both irrelevant and a perfect example of the problem.
Then I’m gonna ask that you elaborate what specific problem you’re trying to explain here, because these seem pretty contradictory.
Yes, you are literally forcing me to accept your dollarinos, which, unless I exchange them MYSELF, are USELESS!
Hold on, have I fallen for Poe’s law?
In both cases, the packages are owned by the same people? (Fun fact: mozilla actually owns both the Firefox snap and the firefox package in the Ubuntu repos.) I’m non sure how that “potentially introduces vulnerabilities” any more than “having a package which has dependencies” does.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to with Docker. Canonical provides both the docker.io package in apt and the docker snap. Personally I use the snap on my machine because I need to be able to easily switch versions for my development work.
If you don’t want to explain, you’re perfectly welcome to not explain. But saying what amounts to “if you don’t know I’m not telling you”, especially when you weren’t specifically asked, is a pretty unkind addition to the conversation.
I’m sure I’ll get shouted down for this suggestion by the haters, but I’m going to make it anyway because it’s actually really good:
Use an Ubuntu LTS flavour like Kubuntu. Then, add flatpak and for apps you want to keep up to date, install either the flatpak or the snap, depending on the particular app. In my personal experience, sometimes the flatpak is better and sometimes the snap is better. (I would add Nix to the mix, but I wouldn’t call it particularly easy for beginners.)
This gets you: