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  • It’s extremely similar to Tailscale, and they are a major source of inspiration for a lot of the functionality.

    The main difference is I am using a controller-less setup where each node maintains the state of their mesh via raft consensus. If a controller server goes down, another node will pick up the leader responsibilities. When requests come in that need to mutate network state, nodes will automatically forward the request to the leader node for you.

    So kinda like a Tailscale - where you can disconnect and branch off at any time. Think…federated networks.



  • So it will work with clients behind NATs. By default the network is a little different from similar solutions in that not everyone is directly connected peer to peer. The default behavior is to branch off from the server you joined (with traffic to the rest of the network routed through them). Then via the admin API (or configuration/RBAC that needs to be better documented) you can tweak the topology by putting “edges” between devices. If there is no direct connectivity between the devices they will use ICE tunnels to connect. One of the APIs that can be exposed on nodes helps with candidate negotiation, and another one can be a TURN server if you want. Sorta demonstrated here https://github.com/webmeshproj/webmesh/tree/main/examples/direct-peerings but it’s a fake test because it happens on docker networks.

    To your second question, there has to be someone accessible currently. But I’ve included an idea of a Peer Discovery API server that devices can optionally expose. In that vein you could have a node that just provides peer discovery and nothing else.

    It’s kinda pointless though because the server running the API has to be a member of the cluster already - so in that way they become a “central server”. I want to add more options, such as SRV lookups. Always happy for help and more ideas too :)



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    Hehe I’ll respond to the edit.

    I actually have a lot of respect for what TailScale is doing. 99% of their shit is open source and they don’t get in the way of the downstream Headscale project that lets you run your own controllers. That being said, I think it gets pricey at scale and tries to do too much for the user. Extending it isn’t super easy at the moment either, but they are working on ways of embedding their agents.

    I wanted to take the idea and put it on the same level of distributed internet projects like Reticulum. I think this has potential to be the networking base for a concept similar to “dApps” but removing the financial incentives that come with using blockchain.

    That all being said - I’m totally considering making a managed offering of this - and am actively looking for people who’d be interested to go on that journey with me. But I’d try extremely hard to never be labeled “corporate” :P.


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    I am by no means an expert but the TLDR is Raft is a protocol that allows distributed systems to maintain a central state. The GitHub page on it is pretty good - https://raft.github.io/.

    What it means for this project is that every single node keeps the database containing the entire network state (rules, addresses, routes, etc.) in-memory. At any single point in time, any of the “voting” nodes can become the “leader”. The leader is responsible for authorizing nodes to join, mutating state, etc. If that leader goes away - another node will pick up the slack.