@squalouJenkins I had to double take because you maintain a nodejs app that I use 😂

But yeah, I get your sentiment.

@bouncing Having worked in front end and backend development when php was king, I very much would like to push back on blaming python for anything with regard to bad coding. PHP5 let you get away with so much worse than python ever did.

You definitely can write bad python code, but it is still opinionated about a good many things that are good to be opinionated about.

This of course begs the question, what are us senior level folks standing in the way of for innovation from the next generation?

Oddly, one thing I’ve seen is junior devs discovering older methods, like using a mysql or postgresql RDBMS engine with actual SQL, to be an effective way to solve a problem and having to justify not using some fancy expensive cloud SaaS DB instead.

I think they may be on to something there.

A decade ago, it was an uphill battle for me trying to get #python and #nodejs approved for serving web applications. Anything outside of PHP, C#, or Java was simple too novel for production. Now python and javascript are ubiquitous for web apps and what many junior devs cut their teeth on.

@SpaceLifeForm I still have the original working floppies and manuals for Personal Pearl* for the Osborne One that my grandfather bought in the early 1980s to manage his machine shop and fabrication business.

*This is not a typo. I’m not talking about Perl.

@[email protected] I meant more in the sense of it that counts for me being an older programmer. COBOL and FORTRAN are older than C and BASIC and there are plenty of COBOL and FORTRAN devs about around Mastodon.