No, I’m mad because people are spreading transparent bullshit on my social network and not even bothering to pretend that they themselves believe it.
I get it if I’m being hostile and condescending and calling them shills and then, wo ho surprise, they’re not excited to talk with me. Makes perfect sense and I’d probably do the same. But it doesn’t change the fact that they’re saying stuff that’s wrong and then not bothering to address on any substantive level if I or anyone else says “hey Biden actually did on YYYY-MM-DD this thing you said he was deliberately not doing because he hates the voters”; they just fly away like Superman to the next misleading meme. They’ve got a right to do it of course, just like I’ve got a right to call them liars about it and explain why.
nah. if you’re too chickenshit to post your argument inline I’m not gonna go hunting through your comment history. //edit - haha I thought this was @AWistfulNihilist not @mozz
If y’all are going to post an incessant drumbeat of why Biden sucks, I’m just gonna keep pasting a few of the reasons why he doesn’t. It’s not just that it’s not his fault that the Republicans kept him from doing good things (although they did prevent him doing much more than that); even hampered by their obstruction, he still managed to among other things:
He took the biggest action on climate change in US history; the goal of the climate bill is to put us on track for a 40% reduction in US emissions by 2030. It’s way too late but that’s clearly not Biden’s fault since he started fighting for it basically as soon as he got into office, and managed to achieve passed legislation which is several standard deviations above the norm for “let’s ignore it until we’re underwater and on fire” US politician status quo.
He ordered the forgiveness of half a trillion dollars in student debt, about a third of the current total balance, and the Supreme Court told him no. He’s still managed to forgive $138 billion worth of it even against stiff Republican “no we need that money to give to Wall Street criminals pls” resistance.
He introduced a bill to legalize marijuana federally, which the Republicans killed in the senate.
He achieved the lowest unemployment in 20 years after having been handed an economy that was still digging out from the apocalypse that was 2020.
The shitshow that is supporting Israel during its accelerating genocide, I won’t defend all that much. But the overall attempt to paint him as the same as the average Democrat is dead wrong. (And, for what it’s worth, “the DNC as a whole and Hilary Clinton specifically are tone deaf media idiots” I’ll also fully agree with.)
All the folks that like to post memes like this haven’t had much success in trying to say any of the above isn’t true.
I think I either replied to the wrong poster or you’re replying to a reply I meant for someone else.
These are all fantastic points.
////goes and looks - yeah My reply was meant for: @AWistfulNihilist
instead of replying to your excellent post with some kind of articulated premise, he says: Honestly you seem a little angry and intimidating, I wouldn’t engage with you much either.
entirely lacking what his counterargument is, simply to tear yours down with specious commentary. your rage is entirely founded on reality and I share it. cheers.
keep making sense man, there’s a tankie-like-undercurrent that would happily trash biden while staying mum on the alternatives, and that big picture should scare the SHIT out of anyone - they fucking told the world what they want to do w/ project 2025, they’re already doing it by gutting the GOP now that Trump’s rule has solidified. This country can choose between imperfect psuedo-democracy or actual fucking terror and fucks like @AWistfulNihilist will tell you to stop being angry. WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY ANGRY. The fact that the media kinda shrugged when the right published their dystopian vision scares the everlasting fuck out of me.
They actually did a great job of going over their points in their answer, I didn’t have anything to add! I wasn’t here to angrily argue in a meme channel.
Yeah, my fear of this person going through my post history and following me from thread to thread (usual thing I find when people have this kind of energy, plus they seem to be stalking a different user and I just don’t think they have the time) went down and now I’m super duper curious!
Ha. I get where you’re coming from; I do give the whole topic maybe more energy than it deserves. It is an important thing to me though.
And no I don’t hound OP or the other accounts I suspect of being shills. OP in particular posts a pretty nonstop flood of this stuff, and if I see some posting he’s made that irritates me because it seems grossly misleading of the truth, I’ll make a comment on it (and reference my belief that he’s a shill). But it’s not because he was the one that posted it or born out of any kind of vendetta. It’s just that reaction of “wtf, that’s wrong” when a post I disagree with comes into my feed, and a little bit of just academic curiosity about my they-are-shills theory.
No, I’m mad because people are spreading transparent bullshit on my social network and not even bothering to pretend that they themselves believe it.
I get it if I’m being hostile and condescending and calling them shills and then, wo ho surprise, they’re not excited to talk with me. Makes perfect sense and I’d probably do the same. But it doesn’t change the fact that they’re saying stuff that’s wrong and then not bothering to address on any substantive level if I or anyone else says “hey Biden actually did on YYYY-MM-DD this thing you said he was deliberately not doing because he hates the voters”; they just fly away like Superman to the next misleading meme. They’ve got a right to do it of course, just like I’ve got a right to call them liars about it and explain why.
Honestly you seem a little angry and intimidating, I wouldn’t engage with you much either.
I tried faking being nice when I’m irritated about something, and the result is usually just even more off putting.
That’s legit hilarious and relatable and makes me feel better about you!
And what are you doing? Engaging repeatedly without shit to offer as a premise, just another shit talker.
Feel free to respond to my list of facts
nah. if you’re too chickenshit to post your argument inline I’m not gonna go hunting through your comment history. //edit - haha I thought this was @AWistfulNihilist not @mozz
Man, you’re so angry about me not wanting to argue about Biden you tagged me twice, sorry I guess?
This doesn’t bode real well 🙂
You just have to scroll up:
If y’all are going to post an incessant drumbeat of why Biden sucks, I’m just gonna keep pasting a few of the reasons why he doesn’t. It’s not just that it’s not his fault that the Republicans kept him from doing good things (although they did prevent him doing much more than that); even hampered by their obstruction, he still managed to among other things:
The shitshow that is supporting Israel during its accelerating genocide, I won’t defend all that much. But the overall attempt to paint him as the same as the average Democrat is dead wrong. (And, for what it’s worth, “the DNC as a whole and Hilary Clinton specifically are tone deaf media idiots” I’ll also fully agree with.)
All the folks that like to post memes like this haven’t had much success in trying to say any of the above isn’t true.
…?
I think I either replied to the wrong poster or you’re replying to a reply I meant for someone else.
These are all fantastic points.
////goes and looks - yeah My reply was meant for: @AWistfulNihilist
instead of replying to your excellent post with some kind of articulated premise, he says: Honestly you seem a little angry and intimidating, I wouldn’t engage with you much either.
entirely lacking what his counterargument is, simply to tear yours down with specious commentary. your rage is entirely founded on reality and I share it. cheers.
Hah! Okay makes perfect sense, threads be confusing for me apparently. My apologies.
keep making sense man, there’s a tankie-like-undercurrent that would happily trash biden while staying mum on the alternatives, and that big picture should scare the SHIT out of anyone - they fucking told the world what they want to do w/ project 2025, they’re already doing it by gutting the GOP now that Trump’s rule has solidified. This country can choose between imperfect psuedo-democracy or actual fucking terror and fucks like @AWistfulNihilist will tell you to stop being angry. WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY ANGRY. The fact that the media kinda shrugged when the right published their dystopian vision scares the everlasting fuck out of me.
Stay righteous.
They actually did a great job of going over their points in their answer, I didn’t have anything to add! I wasn’t here to angrily argue in a meme channel.
I was wondering why they were coming in so hot on a meme the agree with, apparently it’s a multi thread fight.
Yet you keep engaging. Curious.
Yeah, my fear of this person going through my post history and following me from thread to thread (usual thing I find when people have this kind of energy, plus they seem to be stalking a different user and I just don’t think they have the time) went down and now I’m super duper curious!
Ha. I get where you’re coming from; I do give the whole topic maybe more energy than it deserves. It is an important thing to me though.
And no I don’t hound OP or the other accounts I suspect of being shills. OP in particular posts a pretty nonstop flood of this stuff, and if I see some posting he’s made that irritates me because it seems grossly misleading of the truth, I’ll make a comment on it (and reference my belief that he’s a shill). But it’s not because he was the one that posted it or born out of any kind of vendetta. It’s just that reaction of “wtf, that’s wrong” when a post I disagree with comes into my feed, and a little bit of just academic curiosity about my they-are-shills theory.
That explanation stands to reason and you are so reasonable giving it!