• SuddenDownpour
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    8 months ago

    The measures worked much better on the countries that applied them more throughly. As far as European countries go, Italy got struck the earliest without taking measures and their healthcare system collapsed; Spain took note of the situation, applied extremely harsh measures, and while some regions went through severe problems, we got through it far better than Italy.

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      8 months ago

      You are comparing apples to oranges, why not compare america to america to see what worked instead?

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        I’m comparing very similar countries in terms of culture, economics, geographical region, climate, education and technology, which are in the same market and have freedom of movement towards each other, except during the lockdowns.

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          Sounds good, but they compared america to america and found zero benefit to the lockdowns. Literally we knew this in spring of 2020.

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            hey dumfuck, America isn’t the only country in the world. we actually can look at what worked elsewhere.

            America didn’t work because Americans like you refused to cooperate.

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              I love how you start with “hey dumfuck” and expect me to actually read the rest. @[email protected] I hope the hilarity of spelling it dumb as “dum” is not lost on you.

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            What America needed to do was lock down interstate travel but we didn’t do that. We had no real quarantine, and people only broadly respected the mask mandate for a few months.

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              Because we have rights and if mini-lockdowns dont work, I dont think crazy lockdowns would be justified. Why should I a healthy person not be able to do anything because other people might get sick? Why dont they stay in their house and let the other 90% of the population keep working?

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                Half-measures are often far less than half-as-effective. Mini-lockdown didn’t work because it wasn’t a real quarantine, isolation was not achieved. Did you know the word quarantine comes from Latin meaning forty days? Because that’s how long ships were kept out of Venice in the late 1300s to make sure nobody on board had the plague. That’s the kind of harsh policy required for success, but the world decided that the immediate economy is worth more than permanent eradication of dangerous pathogens.

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                  So then you agree with me that the lockdowns didnt work? That is really all I am trying to say here, the issue is that people still believe the lockdowns actually worked, and all of the evidence shows literally the exact opposite.

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                    They failed at the lofty goal of eradication. They, along with vaccination programs, succeeded in reducing the rate and intensity of infections.