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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.one/post/12734168
From its start, Gmail conditioned us to trade privacy for free services
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.one/post/12734168
From its start, Gmail conditioned us to trade privacy for free services
My own server.
Ya, I also run my own and use a dedicated IP and my emails regularly get flagged as spam or in some cases blocked entirely.
The email landscape is complicated and constantly changing. Unless you know exactly what you’re doing, I honestly don’t recommend running your own.
You need to get your email into some big data databases. It’s fucking bullshit, but until your address is tracked by all the snooping bullshit companies, a lot of services will reject it. They run checks with services like Informatica to verify if it’s a valid email or not, and if they’ve never seen your address before, they’ll mark it as fake. That was the hardest part of using my own email server at the beginning, getting all these asshole spy networks to recognize me.
I have had my dedicated IP and server for 7 years now. It still gets flagged as spam, but not blocked. If I knew it was this annoying, I would have never done all this work.
Have you set up DKIM and SPF? That’ll resolve the problem 99% of the time.
I attempted and I don’t think I did it correctly. I don’t use it as my primary email anymore since I don’t do much contracting work anymore.
I’ve just used HostGator email services set up through cpanel for about 7 years now and the only issues I had were forms not accepting the email addresses at first because they were unknown emails and domains. Maybe consider migrating to a known service to resolve your issues. I don’t even pay them for it, it just came free with my shared hosting package which is like $10 per month.
Ahhh, I’m actually running it on my home server. So that could be why it’s more difficult.
Awesome! Can you elaborate a bit on your experience because a ton of folks keeps repeating that locally hosted email is a nonstarter. Do you send a lot of emails and do they actually come through?
Unfortunately, mail is a complex subject. Those folks are generally right. I’ve been doing this awhile, and know what I am doing. My solution will blow the doors off of canned solutions in both performance and lack of false positives. But it is a custom solution and I do not recommend it for most people. I had toyed with the idea of putting a management console on the thing, but for the effort involved, I didn’t feel it is worth it these days with barracuda and proxmox mail gateway products out there.
One big item to deal with if you self host these days is to be on IP address space that is not blacklisted by most spam filters. Comcast’s non-business IP space, for example. Linode for another. If you are in this situation, you can relay through a third party, but you are then not controlling things end to end.
Another issue now is that many recipient providers are requiring valid dmarc, dkim, and spf records. You will need to have all three properly configured for the domains that you manage.
What you might want to do, though, is perhaps host your own mail security relays that stand in front of your ‘ready to go’ mail provider of choice. This is much slower than mine, but is what I would use if standing something up for a company these days: https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-mail-gateway/overview
Or if you want to host everything yourself, there are some solutions out there so you no longer need to piece it together. Search for ‘self hosted email’. I would still put a mail gateway like proxmox in front of it for your edge security and filtering though.
Thank you very much for elaborating. i might give selfhosting email a go after all. Have a good one.
But what software?
sendmail, mimedefang, spamassassin, dovecot, sieve, radicale