Isn’t HDR support on linux just a nightmare in general? I guess Steam is just waiting for linux to get its act together on this decades old feature rather than join in the madness it currently is.
Last time I tried it, it was a nightmare on Windows as well.
I have an HDR monitor and I turned that off because it looked awful. Nex Machina was completely unplayable even then, as it detected it anyway and shows a completely washed out picture.
Only consoles and set top boxes seem to support it properly. It looks really good when it works.
Nah, it looked shit on my TV as well, and that’s an LG OLED. Everything just a lot darker than normal, and only the actual HDR content looks right. The settings for SDR were next to useless.
It looked OK in a full screen game I did get working (one of the recent Tomb Raiders), but such a mess outside it, and it even corrupted the screen when trying to play full screen videos, leading to full system crashes.
The monitor isn’t super bright for HDR content, but the issues go well beyond just that.
I had the exact same infuriating experience the first half hour of using my OLED panel but it turns out it was simply because Firefox doesn’t support hdr. You have to use edge or chrome for hdr content online. So now I use edge purely for YouTube and Firefox for everything else.
I recently asked questions about HDR & automatic refreshrate switching for a linux HTPC, and the advice in the end was just to find whatever distro already has it all precofigured (and conflcting advice whether i’d need Wayland or X)… i was kind of amazed how poorly supported it appeared to be.
So yeah, if steam is like “yeah, we won’t try to venture into that swamp”, can’t say i blame them after having dared to ask how to get it to work myself.
I’ve now got a 13th gen nuc as htpc using libreelec. There is an intel graphics driver issue with 4K HDR & 23.97fps playback (frequent audio dropouts…), but someone on the forum created a patch that does seem to work, and really happy with it so far. Also Libreelec allows you to install docker, so i can use the nuc (which is way overpowered for just htpc usage) also as a server :).
I do hate that the maintainers of libreelec are like 'yeah, it’s an intel bug, so we won’t put the workaround in our official release, nor do anything to make potential users aware of it while we can detect that they will probably need it"… Open source developers don’t really like their users it seems…
Can you link the fix for me? I’m looking to replace my shield but looking for something that does hdr/dv and can do audio pass through. While a nuc is over powered that doesn’t bother me. I’m more concerned about having a dedicated device that does one thing well (hopefully after set up it’s hand off).
That’s. I’ll take a look at this…never heard of it before. Looks like the Linux Plex htpc app has some of its own issues as well. Trying to find something that works well.
the basic goal of libreelec is to just run kodi and nothing else. So it’s really good for a htpc, it’s always running kodi :).
But since you can add docker to it, i’m also running it as a small server, using portainer to manage the containers, and it’s doing great double duty :). If however you want a real desktop environment, this is not the solution for you :).
I’ve been able to play cyberpunk and the witcher in HDR, also elite dangerous. I have to use a separate tty where I launch gamescope, and have to boot with a patched kernel on a separate bootloader entry. It’s not ideal, certainly, but it does work and the experience is good once I did get it working.
It even works in Plasma 6 when using nested Gamescope, but it has a bug that breaks VRR/Freesync no matter if it’s in DRM mode or nested. The only way I could get both to work was using experimental AMD color management on the newest kernel + patched gamescope. It’s so unstable I see it as not worth it, and HDR doesn’t change all that much. Adaptive sync is much more important to me so it can suck it until it’s fixed and usable without all the gymnastics
Isn’t HDR support on linux just a nightmare in general? I guess Steam is just waiting for linux to get its act together on this decades old feature rather than join in the madness it currently is.
Last time I tried it, it was a nightmare on Windows as well.
I have an HDR monitor and I turned that off because it looked awful. Nex Machina was completely unplayable even then, as it detected it anyway and shows a completely washed out picture.
Only consoles and set top boxes seem to support it properly. It looks really good when it works.
Might just be your monitor, HDR certifications mean barely anything and it’s not uncommon for them to look worse with HDR than without.
My last 2 monitors supposedly had hdr but are unusable in reality.
Nah, it looked shit on my TV as well, and that’s an LG OLED. Everything just a lot darker than normal, and only the actual HDR content looks right. The settings for SDR were next to useless.
It looked OK in a full screen game I did get working (one of the recent Tomb Raiders), but such a mess outside it, and it even corrupted the screen when trying to play full screen videos, leading to full system crashes.
The monitor isn’t super bright for HDR content, but the issues go well beyond just that.
One of my monitors is “HDR ready”, whatever that means. Sure as shit doesn’t look like HDR though
I had the exact same infuriating experience the first half hour of using my OLED panel but it turns out it was simply because Firefox doesn’t support hdr. You have to use edge or chrome for hdr content online. So now I use edge purely for YouTube and Firefox for everything else.
HDR is plug and play windows, you just need to turn it on in the settings
If it all worked for you out of the box and you’re happy with it, then great.
But your experience was not my experience.
Your comment was in the past tense though. I had issues with hdr on windows 10 but not windows 11.
It might be fixed in W11. I wouldn’t know. They won’t let me upgrade to it even if I wanted to.
The SteamDeck OLED has HDR support and so does KDE.
KDE has only had HDR support for a month.
I recently asked questions about HDR & automatic refreshrate switching for a linux HTPC, and the advice in the end was just to find whatever distro already has it all precofigured (and conflcting advice whether i’d need Wayland or X)… i was kind of amazed how poorly supported it appeared to be.
So yeah, if steam is like “yeah, we won’t try to venture into that swamp”, can’t say i blame them after having dared to ask how to get it to work myself.
I’m looking into getting a nuc or something for a htpc. Would you say it’s worth it?
I’ve now got a 13th gen nuc as htpc using libreelec. There is an intel graphics driver issue with 4K HDR & 23.97fps playback (frequent audio dropouts…), but someone on the forum created a patch that does seem to work, and really happy with it so far. Also Libreelec allows you to install docker, so i can use the nuc (which is way overpowered for just htpc usage) also as a server :).
I do hate that the maintainers of libreelec are like 'yeah, it’s an intel bug, so we won’t put the workaround in our official release, nor do anything to make potential users aware of it while we can detect that they will probably need it"… Open source developers don’t really like their users it seems…
Can you link the fix for me? I’m looking to replace my shield but looking for something that does hdr/dv and can do audio pass through. While a nuc is over powered that doesn’t bother me. I’m more concerned about having a dedicated device that does one thing well (hopefully after set up it’s hand off).
https://forum.libreelec.tv/thread/27886-intel-alder-lake-2160p-23-976-hz-passthrough-hd-audio-dropouts-i7-1270p-n100/
But i don’t even just have it with passthrough
That’s. I’ll take a look at this…never heard of it before. Looks like the Linux Plex htpc app has some of its own issues as well. Trying to find something that works well.
the basic goal of libreelec is to just run kodi and nothing else. So it’s really good for a htpc, it’s always running kodi :).
But since you can add docker to it, i’m also running it as a small server, using portainer to manage the containers, and it’s doing great double duty :). If however you want a real desktop environment, this is not the solution for you :).
The OLED panel supports it. It’s very much not usable on the Deck right now, though.
OK… https://mastersingaming.com/2024/01/12/the-best-hdr-games-for-steam-deck-oled-doom-eternal-death-stranding-armored-core-vi-and-more-toucharcade/
I’ve been able to play cyberpunk and the witcher in HDR, also elite dangerous. I have to use a separate tty where I launch gamescope, and have to boot with a patched kernel on a separate bootloader entry. It’s not ideal, certainly, but it does work and the experience is good once I did get it working.
It even works in Plasma 6 when using nested Gamescope, but it has a bug that breaks VRR/Freesync no matter if it’s in DRM mode or nested. The only way I could get both to work was using experimental AMD color management on the newest kernel + patched gamescope. It’s so unstable I see it as not worth it, and HDR doesn’t change all that much. Adaptive sync is much more important to me so it can suck it until it’s fixed and usable without all the gymnastics