When we started in 2019, we had a close community helping and cheering us on to get EndeavourOS up and running out of the ashes of Antergos. One of those community members was Pudge, who enthusiast…
They’ve been pretty tame lately, but there have been issues historically that made a lot of people (rightfully) mad. You ca read on them here: https://manjarno.pages.dev/
As someone who loved Manjaro and installed it everywhere, the whole thing is (was?) amateur hour run by clowns. Drama, bugs, but lots of opportunity to contribute if you were equally blind.
You can see there how devs for multiple distros and AUR helpers worked together in a civil manner to solve the issue. It was nice, people cooperated, a textbook example of what FOSS and Linux community spirit is all about.
Yet other people, years later, who aren’t distro devs or AUR admins or were even impacted in any way, use that same moment as a reason to hate blindly. It’s sad and disgusting.
Do tell. I mean Debian has a local root exploit right now but everybody loves Debian. Meanwhile Manjaro is the devil for a DDoS that wasn’t even proven as coming from Manjaro machines. Anybody can fake a user agent.
Thing is, pamac on Manjaro could not have DDoS’ed the AUR since it caches all queries. What’s the scenario, 125k new Manjaro machines all came online at the same time?
All evidence points at someone scraping the AUR and using the pamac UA as a fake-out. But still the Manjaro devs took the opportunity to improve pamac even so, they asked for more optimized endpoints to use, extended the delay before searching to 1s etc. Which yes I find wholesome under the circumstances.
What’s wrong with Manjaro?
They’ve been pretty tame lately, but there have been issues historically that made a lot of people (rightfully) mad. You ca read on them here: https://manjarno.pages.dev/
Manjaro also ruined PINE64.
It sounds like they made their own bed with preferential treatment towards Manjaro.
As someone who loved Manjaro and installed it everywhere, the whole thing is (was?) amateur hour run by clowns. Drama, bugs, but lots of opportunity to contribute if you were equally blind.
They made errors with certificates twice. Apparently, that a cardinal sin for some Linux users.
But if you like Manjaro, use it. It’s not perfect, but it’s a great distro.
5 times*
And DDOSd the AUR.
Twice.
And then worked with Arch to fix the issue with AUR, which made AUR better for everybody.
Source?
The official discussion.
You can see there how devs for multiple distros and AUR helpers worked together in a civil manner to solve the issue. It was nice, people cooperated, a textbook example of what FOSS and Linux community spirit is all about.
Yet other people, years later, who aren’t distro devs or AUR admins or were even impacted in any way, use that same moment as a reason to hate blindly. It’s sad and disgusting.
I mean, painting the Manjaro devs breaking the AUR for everyone (twice) as a wholesome, community bonding experience is a bit of a stretch.
The Manjaro devs have a solid track record of being sloppy. That’s just a fact. It’s fair for people to dislike that.
Do tell. I mean Debian has a local root exploit right now but everybody loves Debian. Meanwhile Manjaro is the devil for a DDoS that wasn’t even proven as coming from Manjaro machines. Anybody can fake a user agent.
Thing is, pamac on Manjaro could not have DDoS’ed the AUR since it caches all queries. What’s the scenario, 125k new Manjaro machines all came online at the same time?
All evidence points at someone scraping the AUR and using the pamac UA as a fake-out. But still the Manjaro devs took the opportunity to improve pamac even so, they asked for more optimized endpoints to use, extended the delay before searching to 1s etc. Which yes I find wholesome under the circumstances.
I’m sure you’re familiar with Manjarno. I’ll refer you to the work that’s already been done there.
Nothing. Some people get hung up on things like the certificates for manjaro.org expiring, which have no relation to anything.