• Justas🇱🇹
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    7 months ago

    They don’t have to justify their existence. But they are often just poorly done characters whose race, orientation or ethnicity is their entire personality.

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      7 months ago

      I agree and a great example is Ellie and Riley in The Last of Us Left Behind. They are very well done characters in a very well done game. They have depth aside from their orientation, gender, race etc. When they explore that it feels natural, not just checking a box.

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        7 months ago

        Very much agree. So much hollow writing for minority characters that make them feel tokenized instead of as real people. I suppose it must start somewhere, but when you see it done well it really points out weaker characters.

        Ellie and Riley are wonderful, Bill too.

        Key appears to be writers who write a character, who happens to be gay instead of a caricature to check the box as you said.

        Loras in the game if thrones tv show is one of the worst examples of a butchering of a gay character. Dudes a young Jaime in the book vs the show where he’s a bloodhound looking for dick.

        Dorian in dragon age inquisition is a character I loved. His orientation is a part of his character and identity. Fits into his backstory with his father that meshes with lore of world to make a connection to real events.

        “You tried to change me.” Line is one of my favorite deliveries in games.

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      7 months ago

      I honestly agree - these groups deserve to have well-written and compelling characters, instead of hollow shells that barely tick the diversity checkbox while being walking stereotypes. Invest in good writing and create interesting and iconic characters!

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      7 months ago

      there are thousands of games who have a proganist that’s just angry white man, military white man, or protective dad man. Do you get as annoyed by these games?

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          7 months ago

          So you’ve made posts complaining about them right? Asking for more games to be made focusing on coming out of the closet or whatever? About the struggles of a woman to get respect in a man’s world?

          Like maybe you’re special but I’ve literally never met someone who complains about minority writing that’s but anywhere near as much effort into complaining about angry white man games being poorly written and derivative.

          • Justas🇱🇹
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            7 months ago

            I have complained about buggy games. I have complained about badly written games. I have never bought an AAA game at full price, because they are extremely expensive. And quite frankly, most of those games cater to a demographic I am no longer a part of, because I am getting too old to fit into.