• Tb0n3
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    -143 months ago

    Since when has anyone said housing is a right? Certainty shelter is necessary but so is safety. If you’re such a degenerate that you cannot just live in a place and not cause people to fear you then maybe its a problem. Go live in a tent. Its shelter.

    • NaibofTabr
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      103 months ago

      We’ve criminalized living in a tent as vagrancy, thus exacerbating the problem of people being stuck in a bad situation and preventing them from being able to support themselves.

      Also, “go live in a tent” really doesn’t work in places where the temperature regularly drops below freezing, or is regularly above 90F, and where there isn’t easy access to clean water and public bathrooms/showers. You’re basically just telling people “go die of exposure”.

    • @[email protected]
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      93 months ago

      Go live in a tent.

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/49-homeless-encampments-dismantled-in-edmonton-since-lawsuit-scrapped-1.7100396

      There are also efforts under way in Oregon to get the US Supreme Court to overturn lower court rulings that prevent the removal of tent encampments, including those based on constitutional arguments.

      So you say “tent” even as tents are being made illegal, too.

      Contrast those with various “housing first” initiatives that are actually working. I think the most notable such program is running in Medicine Hat, Alberta. I’ve long thought of it as one of the more right wing cities in a province that is giving Florida a run for its money in a race to see who can cause the most human suffering, yet they manage to run a successful housing-first program.

      Maybe go read some actual studies and think things through instead of running on instinct. Your brain is not supposed to be treated like a vestigial organ.

    • @ThrowawayPermanente
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      53 months ago

      Plenty of people literally believe exactly this, especially on the left

    • Rentlar
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      13 months ago

      An alternate perspective: Housing is a service. Please tip us.

      Most sincerely,

      Landlords, people born into wealth, and profiteering scammers everywhere.

    • @[email protected]
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      3 months ago

      Since when has anyone said housing is a right?

      International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights
      Article 11

      1. The States Parties to the present Covenant recognize the right of everyone to an adequate standard of living for himself and his family, including adequate food, clothing and housing, and to the continuous improvement of living conditions. The States Parties will take appropriate steps to ensure the realization of this right, recognizing to this effect the essential importance of international co- operation based on free consent.

      CHARTER OF FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION
      Article 34 Social security and social assistance


      3. In order to combat social exclusion and poverty, the Union recognises and respects the right to social and housing assistance so as to ensure a decent existence for all those who lack sufficient resources, in accordance with the rules laid down by Union law and national laws and practices.

      Universal Declaration of Human Rights
      Article 25

      1. Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.