President Biden signed a bill that states if TikTok doesn't cut ties with its China-based parent company ByteDance over the next nine months to a year, it will be banned in the U.S.
There’s nothing wrong with companies informing their customers on how ongoing legislation will affect them.
That being said, I approve of restricting TikTok’s power and influence. I don’t approve of it happening like this. This is a problem for every social media company, not just TikTok. Americans need full privacy protections and transparency behind algorithms that shape their content.
Forcing the sale of one company doesn’t do much but get it out of China’s hands (which… okay fine, this is probably good. We wouldn’t be in this scenario in the first place if congress could do anything to put more control in consumer’s hands in regards to their privacy/content).
I do not want to be slightest of a Meta/Reddit advocate but domestic companies making political statements/actions, although I persoanlly do not agree, is far different from foreign captial, especially considering where the originating country is.
I’m not even US citizen but what they did was really concerning.
Forcing the sale of one company doesn’t do much but get it out of China’s hands (which… okay fine, this is probably good. We wouldn’t be in this scenario in the first place if congress could do anything to put more control in consumer’s hands in regards to their privacy/content).
Google and Facebook did the same thing when they were trying to pass SOPA or whatever it was before that made midtier services responsible for content and data of their users. Yet we don’t see people up in arms to ban those companies.
This is just about young people changing their minds about the Palestine conflict due to videos on the ground.
That’s just moving some goalposts. My reply was purely for this person who said Tik Tok needs to be banned because they showed a message to users saying they’re about to be banned and asking people to defend them, and this is something other tech and social media companies can do and have done as well. They didn’t say anything about the message itself, which wasn’t terrible at all. It said no lies, there was no mind control in it.
And btw, Meta is bad for their users as well. Cambridge Analytica fucking got us Trump through Facebook and Instagram. That’s bad for the whole country, including all their users. We need a general tech privacy bill, like Europeans have been getting, not this protectionist shit to help US oligarchs keep their billions.
There is a difference between a corporation advocating for the public good, and a corporation advocating for its own good. If your direct comparison is “well, why did no one want to ban Google for telling people to not support SOPA/PIPA” you have to acknowledge that distinction. Google et al were perceived to be useful companies advocating for an important cause, while TikTok is not as well-regarded and therefore its advocacy is (or will be) seen as self-serving.
And btw, Meta is bad for their users as well. Cambridge Analytica fucking got us Trump through Facebook and Instagram. That’s bad for the whole country, including all their users. We need a general tech privacy bill, like Europeans have been getting, not this protectionist shit to help US oligarchs keep their billions.
Oh you’re not gonna get any disagreement out of me. The point of my rather flippant response was exactly that- TikTok only gets called out because of the Sinophobia being pushed by Conservatives right now, when all media corporations are the problem.
I mean its a company alerting you to an impending loss of service and asking the only people who can turn course to do something. Its not much different to pornhub putting up a “no longer accessible, reach out to your senator” banner instead of aggressive privacy invading age checks. I think a lot of american websites did something similar when gdpr basically forced them to stop tracking us without consent.
Constitutional right to free expression? Lies. So many get this wrong and they don’t understand its limited jurisdiction. And most of the time it’s all about their narrative and suppressing the opposing view.
Ever seen this?
This is the reason why this ban is much needed. Tiktok is literally propaganda machine. If they can be this overt, what wouldn’t they do?
Is it really that far removed from what Meta was doing when they were unhappy with Canada’s laws?
It’s the same shit
Ever seen this? (2014 protest against net neutrality stuff)
There’s nothing wrong with companies informing their customers on how ongoing legislation will affect them.
That being said, I approve of restricting TikTok’s power and influence. I don’t approve of it happening like this. This is a problem for every social media company, not just TikTok. Americans need full privacy protections and transparency behind algorithms that shape their content.
Forcing the sale of one company doesn’t do much but get it out of China’s hands (which… okay fine, this is probably good. We wouldn’t be in this scenario in the first place if congress could do anything to put more control in consumer’s hands in regards to their privacy/content).
I do not want to be slightest of a Meta/Reddit advocate but domestic companies making political statements/actions, although I persoanlly do not agree, is far different from foreign captial, especially considering where the originating country is.
I’m not even US citizen but what they did was really concerning.
fully agree.
Google and Facebook did the same thing when they were trying to pass SOPA or whatever it was before that made midtier services responsible for content and data of their users. Yet we don’t see people up in arms to ban those companies.
This is just about young people changing their minds about the Palestine conflict due to videos on the ground.
Dude, SOPA and PIPA were objectively bad for users.
So what if TikTok goes away, there are other short-form video platforms to replace it.
That’s just moving some goalposts. My reply was purely for this person who said Tik Tok needs to be banned because they showed a message to users saying they’re about to be banned and asking people to defend them, and this is something other tech and social media companies can do and have done as well. They didn’t say anything about the message itself, which wasn’t terrible at all. It said no lies, there was no mind control in it.
And btw, Meta is bad for their users as well. Cambridge Analytica fucking got us Trump through Facebook and Instagram. That’s bad for the whole country, including all their users. We need a general tech privacy bill, like Europeans have been getting, not this protectionist shit to help US oligarchs keep their billions.
There is a difference between a corporation advocating for the public good, and a corporation advocating for its own good. If your direct comparison is “well, why did no one want to ban Google for telling people to not support SOPA/PIPA” you have to acknowledge that distinction. Google et al were perceived to be useful companies advocating for an important cause, while TikTok is not as well-regarded and therefore its advocacy is (or will be) seen as self-serving.
Oh you’re not gonna get any disagreement out of me. The point of my rather flippant response was exactly that- TikTok only gets called out because of the Sinophobia being pushed by Conservatives right now, when all media corporations are the problem.
Facebook went out of its way to influence US elections for money, but sure it’s the scary chinese who are the problem.
Both can be wrong but something can be more wrong.
I mean its a company alerting you to an impending loss of service and asking the only people who can turn course to do something. Its not much different to pornhub putting up a “no longer accessible, reach out to your senator” banner instead of aggressive privacy invading age checks. I think a lot of american websites did something similar when gdpr basically forced them to stop tracking us without consent.
Constitutional right to free expression? Lies. So many get this wrong and they don’t understand its limited jurisdiction. And most of the time it’s all about their narrative and suppressing the opposing view.