The Netherlands' track Europapa is one of the most memorable of the show and was described by one critic as "so bad" it will "put you off music forever".
Always has been. The whole introduction of the public vote really highlights (what has always been) the political voting of the judges. All the scandi countries voting for each other, border buddy voting, no-one voting for the UK etc.
It was only a few years ago that Iceland got in trouble for briefly showing a Palestine flag in the finals because the rules state “no politics”, but half the songs are making political statements.
Up until a years ago I was of the opinion “There’s no political voting, UK 2022 and Germany 2018 were super popular so it’s possible”. But honestly, after last year I think it’s possible, but some countries still have a disadvantage and they need to produce an absolutely amazing song to get a great result, but only a good song won’t get them the points a different country would get. Only my personal opinion though.
I can think of a few possible factors. First is that we’re not part of any notable voting blocs, so there’s nobody automatically putting us first. That brings down the average relative to those who are in one. We also get automatic entry to the finals every year without having to get ranked well in the semi finals, so there’s a higher chance of a British entry in the finals being unpopular than there is of most other countries. But also, I think, we might just be overestimating what we deserve. We don’t actually do that badly; only Ireland and Sweden have won it more than us, and our average score in the finals if you actually add them all up is pretty much middle of the pack
Probably another Israel protest…
Maybe because Israel’s contestant is someone they literally held a TV contest to find, and then told her what song she’s allowed to sing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/08/arts/music/eurovision-israel-eden-golan-hurricane.html
It’s pure propaganda and rubbing everyone else’s nose in Israel being allowed to participate while actively committing a genocide.
The song was written explicitly to attract sympathy, and it was so bad originally Eurovision had to make them change some of they lyrics.
I miss the days Little Big did a Spanish language song to piss of Russian nationalists, now they’re living in exile in LA and this shit is going on.
I don’t follow Eurovision that closely, did I just never notice this before? Or has it always been like Olympics and FIFA?
Always has been. The whole introduction of the public vote really highlights (what has always been) the political voting of the judges. All the scandi countries voting for each other, border buddy voting, no-one voting for the UK etc.
It was only a few years ago that Iceland got in trouble for briefly showing a Palestine flag in the finals because the rules state “no politics”, but half the songs are making political statements.
Is there a political reason why people don’t vote for the UK or are we just that shit?
Up until a years ago I was of the opinion “There’s no political voting, UK 2022 and Germany 2018 were super popular so it’s possible”. But honestly, after last year I think it’s possible, but some countries still have a disadvantage and they need to produce an absolutely amazing song to get a great result, but only a good song won’t get them the points a different country would get. Only my personal opinion though.
I can think of a few possible factors. First is that we’re not part of any notable voting blocs, so there’s nobody automatically putting us first. That brings down the average relative to those who are in one. We also get automatic entry to the finals every year without having to get ranked well in the semi finals, so there’s a higher chance of a British entry in the finals being unpopular than there is of most other countries. But also, I think, we might just be overestimating what we deserve. We don’t actually do that badly; only Ireland and Sweden have won it more than us, and our average score in the finals if you actually add them all up is pretty much middle of the pack
Neighborhood voting is usually more frequent in televoting tbh (as is running order bias)
Little Big are masters of not giving a fuck who they piss off :)