Just to be clear, this is a false choice fallacy you are engaged in.
There is an infinite series of other options and approaches that Biden could take to immigration reform. Its a choice of his to both a) accept the right wing framing of this issue and b), to adopt Republican policy on this issue.
You don’t understand how the government works if you think POTUS has unlimited power outside of a National Emergency. He has the ability to control the border with Executive Order. Immigration policy is created by Congress.
You are projecting and some how have maintained a total ignorance of the 117th US congress.
Biden had a bill in the house that he wanted them to pass.
It was a horrible draconian border bill with terrible policies in it. It was a total lift and shift of the same terrible polices Republicans support. If it wasn’t for the self-cuck that MAGA engaged in, it would have become law.
Biden could take another approach. Maybe something people who would actually vote for him would like in regards to border policy. Maybe fix H1B’s and our broken education visa-system.
No. No Biden isn’t interested in any of that. Biden wants a Republican border policy.
The same way literally every law or policy has ever been passed will ever be passed. You and your surrogates take the policies into the public conversation advocate for them, and you convert people into adopting your position. You convince the voters of the politicians that your policy is the better policy, and you engage those voters in converting that politician. You form coalitions and you build the rhetorical case for whatever it is that you are doing. Its literally the work of all of politics.
You may not have been exposed to that because you’ve probably developed your political understanding under decades of Democratic rule where the only political maneuvers they know are ‘heal’ and “roll over”. But technically it is possible for Democrats to fight for good policies and get them into law, even if they seem physically incapable of it in their modern manifestation.
So I can understand if you are confused by the idea that Democrats could actually engage in leadership, but in-fact, it is actually what they are elected to do. If the American voters wanted Republican policies coming out of the White House, be it in the form of administrative orders or in the bills they are promoting in congress, they could have just voted Republican.
It’s not a false premise to ask how the hell you expect policy to pass within the current makeup of Congress. You can just say you don’t have an answer. You don’t have to type several paragraphs dodging the question every time.
It’s not bad faith to ask you to support your claims. You can’t just scream “bad faith” whenever you get stuck. It’s not gonna work. Have a good night!
Just to be clear, this is a false choice fallacy you are engaged in.
There is an infinite series of other options and approaches that Biden could take to immigration reform. Its a choice of his to both a) accept the right wing framing of this issue and b), to adopt Republican policy on this issue.
Biden has chosen both of those options.
You don’t understand how the government works if you think POTUS has unlimited power outside of a National Emergency. He has the ability to control the border with Executive Order. Immigration policy is created by Congress.
What do you suggest he do instead?
You are projecting and some how have maintained a total ignorance of the 117th US congress.
Biden had a bill in the house that he wanted them to pass.
It was a horrible draconian border bill with terrible policies in it. It was a total lift and shift of the same terrible polices Republicans support. If it wasn’t for the self-cuck that MAGA engaged in, it would have become law.
Biden could take another approach. Maybe something people who would actually vote for him would like in regards to border policy. Maybe fix H1B’s and our broken education visa-system.
No. No Biden isn’t interested in any of that. Biden wants a Republican border policy.
If Republicans wont pass Republican border policy, can you please explain how the policies you suggest are passed?
Ah yes, the false premise again.
The same way literally every law or policy has ever been passed will ever be passed. You and your surrogates take the policies into the public conversation advocate for them, and you convert people into adopting your position. You convince the voters of the politicians that your policy is the better policy, and you engage those voters in converting that politician. You form coalitions and you build the rhetorical case for whatever it is that you are doing. Its literally the work of all of politics.
You may not have been exposed to that because you’ve probably developed your political understanding under decades of Democratic rule where the only political maneuvers they know are ‘heal’ and “roll over”. But technically it is possible for Democrats to fight for good policies and get them into law, even if they seem physically incapable of it in their modern manifestation.
So I can understand if you are confused by the idea that Democrats could actually engage in leadership, but in-fact, it is actually what they are elected to do. If the American voters wanted Republican policies coming out of the White House, be it in the form of administrative orders or in the bills they are promoting in congress, they could have just voted Republican.
It’s not a false premise to ask how the hell you expect policy to pass within the current makeup of Congress. You can just say you don’t have an answer. You don’t have to type several paragraphs dodging the question every time.
Of course. There would never be answer you could accept because your question isn’t being asked in good faith.
It’s not bad faith to ask you to support your claims. You can’t just scream “bad faith” whenever you get stuck. It’s not gonna work. Have a good night!
You aren’t a person who deserves charity. You are never arguing in good faith.
That sounds like the Republican politicians I know- converted to supporting Democrat policies through public opinion.
That’s just… literally all of what politics is. Democrats should be doing the same things. It’s literally what we elected them to do.
Can you name a time in the relatively recent past when it has happened?