yet to me this is the platonic ideal - it encompasses the principals without other baggage. and we have multiple examples in eu countries where it’s produced results that we desperately need - universal healthcare, cheap education, and sane worker rights. I know many americans would look askew at the socialists part, but confronting head on and producing results is what will lead to success, not shying from alienating those who will never support it because… reasons. <ahem racism classism etc.>
Is it acceptable to say I’m a liberal while US democrats by and large aren’t?
Still better than the alternative by a mile, but that’s a super low bar.
I’m not sure what you mean?
They don’t know what they mean either, but “MLs are liberals” is a pretty spicy take too.
On the other hand, it drives them nuts even as they say the same thing about democratic socialists, so
yet to me this is the platonic ideal - it encompasses the principals without other baggage. and we have multiple examples in eu countries where it’s produced results that we desperately need - universal healthcare, cheap education, and sane worker rights. I know many americans would look askew at the socialists part, but confronting head on and producing results is what will lead to success, not shying from alienating those who will never support it because… reasons. <ahem racism classism etc.>
I think they mean that the US Democratic Party does not stand for any of the values of liberalism besides capitalism.