• Varyk
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    5 months ago

    You’re taking personal credit for the changes I was talking about after agreeing with me.

    Strange opening.

    Okay so you define good and people as bastards, so for you, APAB. All people are bastards.

    You think everybody is a bastard. That’s your own problem, and further clear evidence that people who use the phrase acab don’t understand the world around them

    Because if you look at the legal experts, the cops, the civil Rights groups making those changes? They aren’t screaming illogical, false slogans across the table at police unions without understanding what they’re saying.

    They know that doesn’t effect change.

    They’re negotiating changes within a flawed system.

    And they’re changing the system from within and without successfully whether or not you hurl inaccurate epithets into the void of the internet or scrunch your eyes up tight so you can’t see what’s going on around you.

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      5 months ago

      Nope. I think cops are bastards. They did a thing that makes them a bastard. They stop being a bastard when they stop being a cop. They can be bastards for other reasons, but if they don’t do those things they also aren’t bastards.

      I… Didn’t take personal credit for anything, any more than I do for public schools or our road system. I’m part of the society that helped create those things, enact that change. I didn’t personally do them, but I did have a hand (more like voice) in their creation.

      I deny, however, any credit to the institution that is police. They did not change by choice. They routinely refuse to change by choice, it is only by our (society’s, again - not me personally) hand that they ever change.

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        5 months ago

        I see, so you don’t consider yourself part of society.

        “They can be bastards for other reasons, but if they don’t do those things they also aren’t bastards.”

        Not much of an argument, that what you do and are doesn’t determine what you do or are.

        “I deny, however, any credit to the institution that is police.”

        Good thing no one gave credit to that institution then!

        “They did not change by choice.”

        According to you, it doesn’t matter if they change by choice or not. All humans are immutably defined in perpetuity.

        “They routinely refuse to change by choice”

        Again, apparently choice doesn’t matter in your eyes.

        This whole previous comment. It’s just you either agreeing with me or contradicting yourself.

        But high five! I’ll take it.

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          5 months ago

          Not doing this anymore. You clearly only intend to twist the words I’m saying, rather than apply a bit of logic and argumentative integrity. Have a good life.

          • Varyk
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            5 months ago

            I’m using your literal quotes and then directly and succinctly pointing out their errors.

            It must be difficult for you that direct analytical critique of your perspective related to the topic we are discussing confounds you so.