• brbposting
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    5 months ago

    The situation is certainly dire. Can you go into more about what Greta has been doing wrong and how laying low until adulthood would’ve helped?

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      5 months ago

      There is strength in numbers. A single person isnt a hero. We dont live in a fantasy. Collective action is better. There are a million different ways to hold corporations accountable including working from within each one.

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          5 months ago

          Grandstanding is wonderful! Makes you feel united ! So much standing around! Power of the masses!

          /s in case it isnt obvious. Protests will work if the political will and political climate forces action from political leaders and people in power.

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        5 months ago

        I promise I’m not playing dumb - could you offer an idiot’s guide:

        • thing one
        • thing two
        • [thing three] she did wrong

        And

        • thing one*
        • thing two
        • [thing three] she should have done instead?

        *work inside a corporation to dismantle climate destruction from the inside

        Appreciate your time.

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          5 months ago

          You are asking for a guidebook for something that doesnt exist. I am NOT THE EXPERT.

          You wish to take down large corporations ? Sorry I am not that person.

          You want an idiot’s guide ??? Dude, idiots cannot fix these problems. You need experts.

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            5 months ago

            Ah, you mentioned working inside a company and I liked that idea, so I wanted to show you had provided something that would support your criticism.

            I have an inkling young Greta knows more than both of us. Her Wiki is quite impressive! A portion:

            Thunberg’s climate activism began when she persuaded her parents to adopt lifestyle choices that reduced her family’s carbon footprint. On 20 August 2018, at age 15, Thunberg began skipping school, vowing to remain out of school until after the national Swedish election in an attempt to influence the outcome. She protested outside the Swedish parliament where she called for stronger action on climate change by holding up a Skolstrejk för Klimatet (School Strike for Climate) sign and handing out informational flyers.

            After the election, Thunberg spoke in front of her supporters, telling them to use their phones to film her. She then said that she would be continuing school striking for the climate every Friday until Sweden was in compliance with the 2015 Paris climate agreement. Thunberg’s youth and blunt speaking manner fueled her rise to the status of a global icon.

            Shortly after Thunberg’s first school strike for the climate protest, other students engaged in similar protests in their communities. They then united and organized the school strike for climate movement under the banner of Fridays for Future. After Thunberg addressed the 2018 United Nations Climate Change Conference, weekly student climate strike protests took place on Fridays around the world. In 2019, multiple coordinated multi-city protests involved over a million students each.

            To avoid carbon-intensive flying, Thunberg sailed on a carbon-free yacht from Plymouth, England, to New York City where she attended and addressed the 2019 UN Climate Action Summit. In her speech, Thunberg scolded the world’s leaders by exclaiming “How dare you” in reference to their perceived indifference and inaction to the climate crisis. Her admonishment made worldwide headlines.

            Thunberg’s rise to world fame made her an ad hoc leader in the climate activist community. She also faced heavy criticism, much of it mocking her as a naïve teenager. Thunberg’s influence on the world stage has been described by The Guardian and other media outlets as the “Greta effect”. She has received numerous honours and awards, including an honorary Fellowship of the Royal Scottish Geographical Society, inclusion in Time’s 100 most influential people, named the youngest Time Person of the Year in 2019, inclusion in the Forbes list of The World’s 100 Most Powerful Women (2019), and multiple nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize.

            After Thunberg graduated from high school in June 2023, her protest tactics began to escalate. As an adult, her protests have included defying lawful orders to disperse—defiant but peaceful confrontations with police—which have led to arrests, convictions, and one acquittal. Thunberg’s activism has also evolved to include causes other than climate change, most notably taking a pro-Palestinian position triggered by the Israel–Hamas war.

            Does she deserve our criticism?

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              5 months ago

              Perhaps doing things within our sphere of influence, not putting her on a pedestal. I am not naive enough to believe politicians or powerful people actually care enough to change things around. Good for Greta for doing what she can in her life, but again this is real life and not fantasy. No single person is a hero. Collective action and activism requires participation and positive results.

              We are already past the point of return. All that is left is reducing the climate catastrophe length and duration.

              I predict,

              -2025 ---- we are going to see the first few degrees of sharp temperature rise.

              2026, 2027, 2028, 2029 ---- fighting the weather anomalies with no effect.

              -2030 ----- we might realise that nothing is working into reversing global climate fluctuations.

              2031 — 2040 ---- if politicians act globally ( work from home, ban on individual international travel, shipping fully electric + wind-powered )

              2041 ---- 2050 ---- Either previous decade effect is felt or chaos continues to buildup. Political will dies here. Dictatorships on the rise.

              2051 ---- 2060 ---- Either 2 decades effect is felt or chaos slows down. Do normal people even exist ? Millionaires + peasants.

              2061 ---- 2070 ---- Final 3 decades effect might start showing else chaos causes more issues. No one cares, everyone is infighting.

              2081 ---- ---- ---- ---- Human civilization either survives or wiped out. Earth climate settles into a new normal. Cockaroaches are the new emergent species.

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          Im not from Aussie land or 'Murica so no I dont know what “Fox” or Murdoch is pushing. Not angry. Just sad that Greta is put through all the crap when no excuses, no blaming, no apologies, no grandstandings. Get together and take action. Not simply stand around and protest.

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            you’re sad at the lies from whatever passes for fox news in your corner of India or whatever, panjeet.

            You obviously have no idea what she’s said or done, and that is what makes you pathetic.