Eeesh, this feels too close to medication shaming to me - I know we all find different things effective but medication works extremely well for me and I’ve still got my moral code.
This is the joke. Absurdist hyperbole only works with a shared assumption or common sense to play against.
If there’s an intended target of this joke, it’s definitely not medication. It would be the inscrutability of the wording of that clinical guideline, which seems to imply morality is divergent but can be cured with stimulants.
I thought he meant, that it seems that the “normals” would see someone that knows what is right or wrong as someone that’s not “normal”. Because “normal” people usually don’t give a fuck about justice. “Normal” people have a very selfish moral code.
Possibly? I’m open to having taken this the wrong way but to me it sounded like his statement implied that being a moral person and taking medication were incompatible or at least implied that medication makes you less moral.
I watched it again and i think honestly it could be both. What’s missing is the context in which he is saying this. There’s, for me at least, no way to know where he’s coming from, by only viewing this snippet.
The context is that he’s doing a stand-up comedy routine. Although “it’s funny because it’s true” is a thing, he’s not necessarily endorsing every single punchline as his closely-held genuine belief.
It’s not the moral code that’s the issue, it’s that people with ADHD tend to act impulsively on things they view as unjust, like you’re temporarily blinded to the consequences of your actions.
Medication can help a lot with making a more measured response, or deciding that’s it’s not worth it to pursue any further.
People are allowed to be critical of entertainment, and that includes comedy. In fact, sometimes you should be critical of things that people brand as “comedy”.
Sometimes things are problematic, regardless of their intent as “comedy”. And that’s normal. Comedy often ages very poorly. Remember all those movies that used rape & sexual assault as a punchline? Should we not be critical of blackface because it’s supposed to be “comedy”? Should we turn off our brains because “it’s just a joke”?
You’re allowed to laugh. Others are allowed to be more critical. Both are valid.
I’ll shame meds all day long because I am pissed off they force fed me them starting at age 7. I was strongly effected by the side effects to the point I truly believe it fucked my brain up a bit, but nobody seemed to care because I was quieter during class. I wasn’t given a choice in the matter. I think it’s ok to be against meds, and it’s ok to be for them. They can do amazing things but they’re not a fix all solution for everyone.
You can have my meds when you pry them from my cold dead hands. It’s not ok to be against something people do of their own free will that helps them out and doesn’t hurt anyone.
I’m not forcing anyone not to take them, and I’m not judging people that do in any way shape or form. I think it’s great that it works so well for so many people. I’m still going to voice my concerns because it’s important to remember they’re not perfect and they aren’t the best solution for everyone. I wish someone spoke up for me about that when I was a child and no one was listening to me about the issues I was having with the meds. To me, it’s not ok to assume every single person with ADHD will benefit from meds. Especially children.
I think for some people they are good. For people like you and me not so much. I think that they permanently messed up my brain too. What are your symptoms?
Eeesh, this feels too close to medication shaming to me - I know we all find different things effective but medication works extremely well for me and I’ve still got my moral code.
This is the joke. Absurdist hyperbole only works with a shared assumption or common sense to play against.
If there’s an intended target of this joke, it’s definitely not medication. It would be the inscrutability of the wording of that clinical guideline, which seems to imply morality is divergent but can be cured with stimulants.
I thought he meant, that it seems that the “normals” would see someone that knows what is right or wrong as someone that’s not “normal”. Because “normal” people usually don’t give a fuck about justice. “Normal” people have a very selfish moral code.
Possibly? I’m open to having taken this the wrong way but to me it sounded like his statement implied that being a moral person and taking medication were incompatible or at least implied that medication makes you less moral.
I watched it again and i think honestly it could be both. What’s missing is the context in which he is saying this. There’s, for me at least, no way to know where he’s coming from, by only viewing this snippet.
The context is that he’s doing a stand-up comedy routine. Although “it’s funny because it’s true” is a thing, he’s not necessarily endorsing every single punchline as his closely-held genuine belief.
I really don’t know the world of stand up comedy. I appreciate the heads up.
It’s not the moral code that’s the issue, it’s that people with ADHD tend to act impulsively on things they view as unjust, like you’re temporarily blinded to the consequences of your actions.
Medication can help a lot with making a more measured response, or deciding that’s it’s not worth it to pursue any further.
Relax, it’s called comedy
People are allowed to be critical of entertainment, and that includes comedy. In fact, sometimes you should be critical of things that people brand as “comedy”.
Sometimes things are problematic, regardless of their intent as “comedy”. And that’s normal. Comedy often ages very poorly. Remember all those movies that used rape & sexual assault as a punchline? Should we not be critical of blackface because it’s supposed to be “comedy”? Should we turn off our brains because “it’s just a joke”?
You’re allowed to laugh. Others are allowed to be more critical. Both are valid.
Relax.
This isn’t one of those times
I’ll shame meds all day long because I am pissed off they force fed me them starting at age 7. I was strongly effected by the side effects to the point I truly believe it fucked my brain up a bit, but nobody seemed to care because I was quieter during class. I wasn’t given a choice in the matter. I think it’s ok to be against meds, and it’s ok to be for them. They can do amazing things but they’re not a fix all solution for everyone.
You can have my meds when you pry them from my cold dead hands. It’s not ok to be against something people do of their own free will that helps them out and doesn’t hurt anyone.
I’m not forcing anyone not to take them, and I’m not judging people that do in any way shape or form. I think it’s great that it works so well for so many people. I’m still going to voice my concerns because it’s important to remember they’re not perfect and they aren’t the best solution for everyone. I wish someone spoke up for me about that when I was a child and no one was listening to me about the issues I was having with the meds. To me, it’s not ok to assume every single person with ADHD will benefit from meds. Especially children.
just say that its not okay to force medications on someone and we are all good
I think for some people they are good. For people like you and me not so much. I think that they permanently messed up my brain too. What are your symptoms?