Important context: This was an instance of a crowd crush caused by poor crowd control.

edit: action has now been taken against the offending comment :)

(also some of you guys in the comments here have been yoinked by mods too… just be nice? this post was not an invitation to test out your boundaries)

by opening this spoiler you acknowledge that brigading and harrassment are against the rules

link to post in question: https://lemmy.world/comment/10965360

  • wander1236
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    44
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    5 months ago

    Does that mean you deserve to die in a crowd crush, something not at all unique to religious gatherings?

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      44
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      5 months ago

      r/atheism and its consequences have been disastrous to the traditional practice of being a decent human being online

      • imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        26
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        Riiiiiiiight it’s atheists that are the problem. Not just shitty people who happen to be atheist…

          • imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            14
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            5 months ago

            Claiming that /r/atheism has any significant impact on the internet culture as a whole is just the silliest thing to claim without evidence or explanation of any sort. It doesn’t even say what he’s claiming they did to the internet’s culture just an implication that it was bad.

            Pretty empty table pounding statement

            • alyth@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              10
              ·
              edit-2
              5 months ago

              This statement hardly merits the same level of proof as a scientific publication. The original post is an example of the obnoxious behavior you find on r/atheism.
              They feel superior to and smarter than religious people. In this extreme case, the poster expresses feeling superior to people who died in a stampede that took place at a religious event.
              Internet atheists who think they are superior to believers / Believers who think they are superior to atheists are two sides of the same coin.

              • imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                ·
                5 months ago

                Scientific publication? Jesus dude, I’m just saying you’re showing a whole lot of shit without merit

        • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          5 months ago

          With emphasis, no, it’s shitty people who happen to be atheist who are the problem. :) Just to clarify, because I would never make that first statement.

          “the silliest thing to claim without evidence or explanation of any sort”

          You are right, I left a lot implied because my sentiment is a fairly common one. But fair to point out—my apologies. Here is a citation showing that I am far from the first person to hold this opinion on r/atheism.

          Note again that I don’t hold any prejudice against any belief system; I only hold that r/atheism in particular historically fostered a culture of toxicity which makes anti-religious prejudice and personal attacks more common compared to offline spaces.

        • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          5 months ago

          Riiiiiiiight it’s atheists that are the problem. Not just shitty people who happen to be atheist…

          90% of religious people have a similar reaction when people complain about shitty people who happen to be religious.

          Turns out you find shitty people in every group. Who knew?

          • imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            5 months ago

            Problem is atheists are complaining about the people who run the religion, there’s no “head of the atheism”

              • imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                5 months ago

                They’re not complaining either. They’re mocking. You’re talked about complaining about bad people when atheists say these are bad Christians. They’re talking about the heads of churches usually or heads of political parties. You know the people with influence and power.

                When you talk about bad atheists you talk about randommorons on the internet who are mocking people who don’t deserve it

                • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  5 months ago

                  You know the people with influence and power.

                  Who are shitty people that happen to be religious. Criticise them for being shitty and pushing shitty policies, don’t pretend that every prison who happens to be religious is responsible for them or believes and behaves in the same way.

    • Crashumbc@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      5 months ago

      While not impossible elsewhere. Extremely large crush killings like this happen with alarming regularity at religious events.

      • Tar_Alcaran
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        Concerts and sporting events have rules and regulations to prevent this nowadays. Guess who cries “persecution” when you try the same for them.

        Also, a lot of these events are in the poorer countries, where these regulations don’t exist.

        And also because, apparently, god doesn’t want to rescue these people.