Previous U.S. intelligence assessments dating to 2016 concluded that Russia sought to weaken support for the Democratic Party and boost Donald Trump’s candidacy.
The dude sacrificed his comfortable life to tell us that the feds are violating the 4th amendment on a regular basis and you’re calling him a traitor? Fuck you
I’ll only speak for myself; I don’t think Snowden was a traitor. The guy’s a fuckin hero. That’s not mutually exclusive with maybe him having to give up some intel once he’s in the clutches of the Russian government with maybe not a lot of options that wouldn’t lead to some real bad shit for him.
I feel bad for the guy. He 100% did the right thing, knowing ahead of time that he would get fucked for it, and now he’s fucked and has powerful powerful enemies, and no friends who can make any difference for him. If anything I was saying sounded like I was agreeing he was a traitor, I was not.
It’s like some Dante’s Inferno invention on behalf of some lemmy.ml user who says hey the US government does some bad shit and so I’m sure we can trust its enemies, how could they be any different or any worse
And then a few months later they are saying yes you were right I still don’t like slavery or aid to Israel but this is objectively INFINITELY worse than the things I had experienced so far
There’s a spectrum of maliciousness for governments. In general, I think trusting any of them to safeguard the rights of actual breathing humans is unwise. That doesn’t mean they’re all the same.
Bro, the Patriot Act happened right after 9-11 and it was right in there plain as day that the gov’t would be listening to the interet traffic of everyone to save us from turrists.
And way way before that Ma Bell was known for giving access to the gov’t to listen in on phone calls. You think Snowden is some oracle on that front?
I never called him a trator, I merely said it’s coincidental.
The dude sacrificed his comfortable life to tell us that the feds are violating the 4th amendment on a regular basis and you’re calling him a traitor? Fuck you
I’ll only speak for myself; I don’t think Snowden was a traitor. The guy’s a fuckin hero. That’s not mutually exclusive with maybe him having to give up some intel once he’s in the clutches of the Russian government with maybe not a lot of options that wouldn’t lead to some real bad shit for him.
I feel bad for the guy. He 100% did the right thing, knowing ahead of time that he would get fucked for it, and now he’s fucked and has powerful powerful enemies, and no friends who can make any difference for him. If anything I was saying sounded like I was agreeing he was a traitor, I was not.
He didn’t choose to go to Russia, he was forced to stay there
Julian Assange though is a different case altogether. He gave Russia intel directly
It’s like some Dante’s Inferno invention on behalf of some lemmy.ml user who says hey the US government does some bad shit and so I’m sure we can trust its enemies, how could they be any different or any worse
And then a few months later they are saying yes you were right I still don’t like slavery or aid to Israel but this is objectively INFINITELY worse than the things I had experienced so far
There’s a spectrum of maliciousness for governments. In general, I think trusting any of them to safeguard the rights of actual breathing humans is unwise. That doesn’t mean they’re all the same.
Bro, the Patriot Act happened right after 9-11 and it was right in there plain as day that the gov’t would be listening to the interet traffic of everyone to save us from turrists.
And way way before that Ma Bell was known for giving access to the gov’t to listen in on phone calls. You think Snowden is some oracle on that front?
I never called him a trator, I merely said it’s coincidental.