I might not be understanding something about the fediverse, but isn’t this like if you couldn’t send or receive email from a friend because you use gmail Google decided to block @icloud domains?

Like, you’re not forced to follow or interact with it, and are free to block it if you can think of a reason to, I just don’t see why such an open platform used to limit users in this way

  • @Arcane2077OP
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    -201 month ago

    You can’t block anything from seeing your posts and comments though. That is point of a free and public space. Defederation isn’t doing what you think it is

    • @sugar_in_your_tea
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      271 month ago

      Sure, websites could scrape and whatnot, but having actual API integration is a very different thing.

      • originalucifer
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        -81 month ago

        only until llm scrapers hit the market. they will make the api requirement negligible. like reddit is finding out now… you can block your api all you want but people are just going to scrape your public site.

        • @sugar_in_your_tea
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          141 month ago

          Sure, but that’s not the issue at all. The issue is that they’d be linking lemmy content from within Threads, as in using Lemmy content to drive engagement for Threads. Whether it’s used in an LLM is another matter entirely. Without direct API integration, Lemmy posts and comments won’t show up in Threads. That’s my take on why people want to defederate.

          • originalucifer
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            -91 month ago

            so youre saying meta may use the information youre publicly posting as if it was public information?

            e. solution seems simple. require login to view content… or dont

            • @sugar_in_your_tea
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              121 month ago

              I’m saying it’s a completely separate concern. Whether Meta scrapes lemmy has nothing to do with whether Meta is federated with lemmy.

    • originalucifer
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      -121 month ago

      this is exactly it. these people are posting public information, and are then getting butt-hurt when its used a public resource.

      im running an mbin instance (shoutout https://moist.catsweat.com !), which does connect to threads. I purposefully avoided using lemmy as its not capable of doing that. I wanted to give people stuck in the FB walled garden a path out where they could still communicate with their friends and family on threads.

      my only concern with threads is one of resource management/volume. I cant have their stream physically take down my server, so that would be the only reason for me to block them.

      a rather large lemmy contingent are vehemently, emotionally anti-meta. see also the ‘fedipact’

      • Blaze (he/him)
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        241 month ago

        a rather large lemmy contingent are vehemently, emotionally anti-meta.

        Meta’s history doesn’t really speak in its favor