• mox
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    81 month ago

    anyone with that access can do a lot of damage anyway.

    it’s just that there’s no remediation once the flaw has been exploited.

    One of these things is not like the other.

    • @conciselyverbose
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      1 month ago

      Yeah, turning an exploit into one that survives a fresh install is a big deal.

      • @[email protected]
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        -11 month ago

        It’s always been a thing that the only way to completely be safe after malware is yeeting the old system and getting a new one…

        And even then there have been actively exploited issues where the system gets re-infected when reloading the data from a backup. (My memory is a bit rusty on that one, but it was just data being restored, nothing that should install anything)

        • @conciselyverbose
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          11 month ago

          There has been a small element of risk, but it’s low enough that this meaningfully increases it.

    • @[email protected]
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      151 month ago

      They’re intrinsically linked, in fact. If you have kernel access, you can do any number of things, including but not limited to persistent rootkits. I agree that this bug is one step further, since it affects the processor itself, but if somebody has ring 0 access that shouldn’t, you already have problems.

      • mox
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        No, it is misleading. An exploit with no remediation is not remotely comparable to a normal root exploit, which can be fixed with a simple OS reinstall.

        Edit: And their follow-up comment, “if somebody has ring 0 access that shouldn’t, you already have problems,” is dangerously misleading. While technically true that you would have a problem in both scenarios, presenting it that way is like telling someone not to worry about losing a leg because their sprained ankle is already a problem.