• kamenoko
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    3 months ago

    Palestinians have been offered a state countless times. The Arab and Iranian Muslims that fund Hamas’ terrorism won’t be happy until everyone is dead or a Muslim.

    It’s 2024 why are we supporting religious terrorists?

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      3 months ago

      “Offered a state”

      Yeah sure thing dude. As long as they don’t control their border with Egypt, right?

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      3 months ago

      Israel is the one that was founded on ethnic cleansing, used the peace process to expand it’s settlements, and is currently engaged in genocide. Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution

      Oslo Accord Sources: MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ

      The settlements represent land-grabbing, and land-grabbing and peace-making don’t go together, it is one or the other. By its actions, if not always in its rhetoric, Israel has opted for land-grabbing and as we speak Israel is expanding settlements. So, Israel has been systematically destroying the basis for a viable Palestinian state and this is the declared objective of the Likud and Netanyahu who used to pretend to accept a two-state solution. In the lead up to the last election, he said there will be no Palestinian state on his watch. The expansion of settlements and the wall mean that there cannot be a viable Palestinian state with territorial contiguity. The most that the Palestinians can hope for is Bantustans, a series of enclaves surrounded by Israeli settlements and Israeli military bases.

      • Avi Shlaim

      How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution

      ‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe

      One State Solution, Foreign Affairs

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        3 months ago

        Look at the borders of Israel in the 60s and today, and perhaps ask Jordan and Egypt why they can’t give land to Palestinians?

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          How does that make more sense to you than Equal rights for all and Right of Return for all Refugees? Do you just straight up support an Apartheid ethnostate?

          Palestinians deserve to live in historic Palestine with equal rights, like how Palestine has been for millennia before Zionist Settler Colonialism turned it into an Ethnostate by ethnically cleaning the native population and continue to do so to this day

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            3 months ago

            When has there ever been a Palestinian state and why do you live under the impression only Jews and Palestinians live in Israel?

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              Funny how you ignore the question

              What do your questions have to do with anything? People existed in places before Nationalism became a thing. Palestinians are the native people of historic Palestine and Israelis are the colonizers. This has to do with Zionism, not Jewish people

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        3 months ago

        Why do Christians and Muslims want to wipe all the Jews from the earth?

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          You hasbara trolls are so sad. Keep trying, the world has woken up, free Palestine and fuck the genocidal settler colonial apartheid entity.

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            Of all the genocides being committed across the world today most are being committed by Muslims in Africa and Southeast Asia. They only have one tiny bit of the Middle East and that’ll take care of most of the ethnic diversity left in the region.

            Why do you all love the infitada so much?