• @[email protected]
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      1714 days ago

      An LLMs “intent” is always to give you a plausible response even if it doesn’t have the “knowledge”. The same behaviour in a human would be classed as lying IMHO.

      • @[email protected]
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        214 days ago

        But you wouldn’t call it lying if a person tells you something they think is true but turns out to be false. Lying means intentionally giving out false information. LLMs don’t have intentions.

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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          514 days ago

          Yeah I think it’s more fitting to use the term bullshitting.

          LLMs actually know that some of their answers have low probability to be the right ones, they give them out regardless, and don’t mention the low confidence of it.

        • @conciselyverbose
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          314 days ago

          You would call what they said bullshit though.

          Intent is irrelevant. Bullshit is bullshit.

          • @[email protected]
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            014 days ago

            Depends which definition of bullshit you use, I guess.

            Frankfurt determines that bullshit is speech intended to persuade without regard for truth. The liar cares about the truth and attempts to hide it; the bullshitter doesn’t care whether what they say is true or false.

            Wiki

            • @conciselyverbose
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              214 days ago

              the bullshitter doesn’t care whether what they say is true or false.

              That’s another way to say “intent is irrelevant”.

              It’s also effectively the perfect definition of LLM output. Content for the sole purpose of looking the part with absolutely no consideration for reality.

              • @[email protected]
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                -113 days ago

                …bullshit is speech intended to persuade…

                Quoting out of context is not going to score you any points

                • @conciselyverbose
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                  113 days ago

                  It is intended (by the designer) to persuade. It’s intended to persuade you that it’s something a human would say.

                  Ignoring that you’re trying to claim one dude’s definition of bullshit as the law, that one dude’s definition is an exact flawless match for what LLMs are.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    013 days ago

                    It is intended (by the designer) to persuade.

                    According to you, I presume? Or can you back that up somehow?

                    LLMs were developed to simulate human-like understanding and generation of language. They’re called large language models for a reason.

        • @[email protected]
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          114 days ago

          …but if they don’t know I expect them to say so. An LLM isn’t trustworthy until it says “I don’t know”.