I had to stop at number 2 of your list. (Maybe a bit later since I still watched Enterprise…) but Discovery killed the whole thing for me. I was like… how bad it can be? It’s still Star Trek… well no.
Checked out a few episodes of Picard…, I dunno. That’s also not necessarily the Star Trek for me. :/
(On the other hand, Seth MacFarlane’s Orville was amazing)
I’m totally on board with that analysis because Discovery was just wrong (IMO). Didn’t give Enterprise a chance because Discovery used up all my goodwill. Lower Decks I’m leaving open, but so far animation isn’t doing it for me Trek-wise.
I’d recommend sticking with Picard, I think by the 3rd season I was fully convinced. I understand the first season is a little rickety while they find a tone.
But for me, there’s one Star Trek that needs no qualification, no bloody A, B, C, D, or anything else: yeah baby I’m talking about TOS. Technicolor fistfights, ham and corn in abundance, some actual drama; A Good Time Was Had By All. It can’t be replicated, only riffed on. That we’re 50 years in and still going is testament to the intrinsic success of the original making “it” work.
My GF didn’t watch much Trek until she met me, and since then she’s watched everything from TNG onwards. Even for a relatively new fan she agrees that Discovery just didn’t feel like Star Trek even though she liked the show.
But her favorite Star Trek show is definitely The Orville.
How did you get her to watch it and give it enough of a chance to like it? I’ve been with my wife for 20 years, and she’s still never seen any Trek other than the JJ Abrams stuff.
Highly recommend lower decks (try getting through the first few eps though, it does take a little to find its legs). I am also not a fan of Discovery and Picard. Strange New Worlds is okay, a few really strong eps (i do adore the design work though, I’m very happy with the original series era being modernized like this)
I watched the first season of Lower Decks, and… it didn’t really clicked. It’s just waaaay too fast paced (and goofy) for Star Trek to me - tho the cartoon itself is good.
With Picard, I checked 2 or 3 eps of it, but honestly I’m not sure I really wanna continue. (Tho I don’t want to punish my gf by skipping them since Star Trek is our daily thing, so I might watch it) and Strange New Worlds is something that awaits. I’ve heard good things about that one so not all hopes lost for me 😅
The thing that really puts a Star Trek show over the top is the chemistry between the crew, and SNW has that in spades. Pike is now my favorite captain.
Pike is the ultimate Starfleet captain, which is crazy.
TNG’s chemistry was all over the place for the first 3 seasons, after TBOTW they locked it down perfectly, Enterprise’s too actually. DS9 nailed the chemistry best till SNW imho, LD too I guess.
(Maybe a bit later since I still watched Enrerprise…)
No, Enterprise firmly and definitely fits into category 2. It had a weird theme song and some people didn’t like how it shoehorned an extra ship named Enterprise into the list, but other than that it was Berman-era Trek, through and through.
I started Star Trek from 0 around 2 years ago.
I had to stop at number 2 of your list. (Maybe a bit later since I still watched Enterprise…) but Discovery killed the whole thing for me. I was like… how bad it can be? It’s still Star Trek… well no.
Checked out a few episodes of Picard…, I dunno. That’s also not necessarily the Star Trek for me. :/
(On the other hand, Seth MacFarlane’s Orville was amazing)
Picard was trash. It started very promising, and then it’s like they brought in the writers from Amazon’s Wheel of Time to ruin it.
The Orville is the best Star Trek since DS9.
I’m totally on board with that analysis because Discovery was just wrong (IMO). Didn’t give Enterprise a chance because Discovery used up all my goodwill. Lower Decks I’m leaving open, but so far animation isn’t doing it for me Trek-wise.
I’d recommend sticking with Picard, I think by the 3rd season I was fully convinced. I understand the first season is a little rickety while they find a tone.
But for me, there’s one Star Trek that needs no qualification, no bloody A, B, C, D, or anything else: yeah baby I’m talking about TOS. Technicolor fistfights, ham and corn in abundance, some actual drama; A Good Time Was Had By All. It can’t be replicated, only riffed on. That we’re 50 years in and still going is testament to the intrinsic success of the original making “it” work.
58 years in… The 60th anniversary of the first trek is two years away
My GF didn’t watch much Trek until she met me, and since then she’s watched everything from TNG onwards. Even for a relatively new fan she agrees that Discovery just didn’t feel like Star Trek even though she liked the show.
But her favorite Star Trek show is definitely The Orville.
How did you get her to watch it and give it enough of a chance to like it? I’ve been with my wife for 20 years, and she’s still never seen any Trek other than the JJ Abrams stuff.
Some women are different from other women and like different things.
Highly recommend lower decks (try getting through the first few eps though, it does take a little to find its legs). I am also not a fan of Discovery and Picard. Strange New Worlds is okay, a few really strong eps (i do adore the design work though, I’m very happy with the original series era being modernized like this)
I watched the first season of Lower Decks, and… it didn’t really clicked. It’s just waaaay too fast paced (and goofy) for Star Trek to me - tho the cartoon itself is good.
With Picard, I checked 2 or 3 eps of it, but honestly I’m not sure I really wanna continue. (Tho I don’t want to punish my gf by skipping them since Star Trek is our daily thing, so I might watch it) and Strange New Worlds is something that awaits. I’ve heard good things about that one so not all hopes lost for me 😅
This is addressed in an episode. I won’t say which episode or series because it’s a spoiler but it is addressed.
ah, good to know
Snw is personally amazing, it’s an attempt to rebirth trek from scratch. It’s not ds9 or the best of tng, but pike really nails it so you don’t care.
Picard season 3 is solid, especially the first half, otherwise don’t bother with s1 and s2.
The thing that really puts a Star Trek show over the top is the chemistry between the crew, and SNW has that in spades. Pike is now my favorite captain.
Pike is the ultimate Starfleet captain, which is crazy.
TNG’s chemistry was all over the place for the first 3 seasons, after TBOTW they locked it down perfectly, Enterprise’s too actually. DS9 nailed the chemistry best till SNW imho, LD too I guess.
I am not even calling discovery startrek, it is simply not. Picard is meh.
But you need to watch strange new worlds and lower decks, if you haven’t - these are amazing.
No, Enterprise firmly and definitely fits into category 2. It had a weird theme song and some people didn’t like how it shoehorned an extra ship named Enterprise into the list, but other than that it was Berman-era Trek, through and through.
yeah, you may right. I was hesitant for a second when I put Enterprise too into categ. 3. But It’s still sorta in-between…
and that theme song wasn’t that bad afterall :P. at least the OG one.
Discovery improved slightly in the later seasons…
slightly