• where_am_i
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    2 months ago

    It’s their private website, they do on it whatever they want. Right, lemmy?

    You can run your own federated streaming service that will have no ads and will be free of charge, yeah?

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      2 months ago

      No, commercial services with a dominant position in the market cannot do whatever they want.

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        2 months ago

        This market domination is non-discriminatory. It’s not like you go to your local car dealerships and they don’t sell you any other brand than GM. Everyone on the internet is free to go and use any other service. It’s dominant because users are happy with their ads or subscription fees instead of investing their time into using a competing product.

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          2 months ago

          Everyone on the internet is free to go and use any other service.

          Yes but that’s not the claim you made. You wrote “It’s their private website, they do on it whatever they want. Right, lemmy?” and this blanket statement is wrong. They can’t to “whatever they want” because they are bound by laws. If Google/Alphabet instituted rules on YouTube that competing video services like Nebula cannot named at all, market watchdogs would be at their heels immediately and they’d win in court if it came to it.

          Can they put ads on pause screens? Yes. Can they do “whatever they want”? No.

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      2 months ago

      Nobody here wants peertube really.

      They want free bandwidth (streaming 4k60), free computation (encoding, optimization), free research (codec development) and free storage (for endless amount of videos). Google sucking is a valid reason to piggyback on Google infrastructure but they seem to feel entitled to Google just letting it happen.

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        2 months ago

        i pay for this shiti service while being data mined anyway…

        you are acting as if paying is a solution against these parasites… it aint.

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          2 months ago

          You’re getting angry at a company and capitalism in general. Big techs should be broken up and regulated up to their tits. In the current legal framework they don’t owe you anything and are well within their rights to put up a fight though. They won’t do anything out of good of their hearts because companies don’t have one.

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        2 months ago

        They can try to enshittify all they want, but as long as they keep offering that shit for free it’s their own fault really. There will always be a way to remove all the crap once the video images enter my computer.

        If it isn’t sustainable for them then they should have required sign in and payment long ago instead of operating at a loss just to get all the content in their place. The only ones letting it happen are themselves, we just here for the ride.

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          2 months ago

          They won’t stop piracy ever but they can also make it as inconvenient as possible. You treat it like a game of cat and mouse while 90% of society uses adblock because someone told them how to do that.

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        2 months ago

        I never understood, and never will understand this.

        Even when I was a poor teenager and pirated essentially everything I always knew that this content only exists because someone is paying for it.

        How do people go around feeling like the best VoD platform to ever exist, available on every device imaginable, optimized for years by best software engineers the world has, should be free, and without ads is beyond me.