• taladar
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    9 hours ago

    I don’t see what the ability to treat women as people who get control over their own bodies has to do with being a woman yourself or being able to become pregnant yourself.

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      8 hours ago

      Well, assuming the 79% statistic is accurate, you could start from that discrepancy and extrapolate from there?

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        6 hours ago

        Those 79% are irrelevant, what would be relevant is the opposite, which percentage of men are opposed to abortion, not how many of the people opposed to abortion are men.

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          46 minutes ago

          Irrelevant to what? It’s fair to say she is clearly Pro-Choice, so understanding the demographics of those who are anti-choice is very relevant. Especially if your point is that “since 4 out of 5 people opposed to abortion rights are men, who will not be directly affected by these laws, their opinion is functionally irrelevant”.

          Or are you just upset that this fails to acknowledge that just because men are more likely to be anti-abortion then women, that does not mean that men are more likely to be anti-abortion in general? Because I would argue the latter is irrelevant to the fact that the majority of people who are against abortion rights will never be directly affected by it.

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      7 hours ago

      Some (maybe most?) people are selfish and only care about policies which directly affect them?

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        6 hours ago

        I don’t think that is the root cause here, if that was true the people opposed to abortion wouldn’t feel so strongly about it because they aren’t really affected by other people having abortions (no, not even in their religious world view).

        In fact, the percentage of the population directly affected by abortion legislation one way or the other is likely relatively small (not tiny, but probably not more than 20%) due to age and other life circumstances that make it unlikely for them to need one. The vast majority of the rest are people who “merely” have empathy with those who do and that includes men and women alike.