In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

  • starman2112
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    4 days ago

    Then genuinely, don’t say anything. You are a representative of a political ideology, and when you condescendingly tell people to educate themselves on a subject instead of writing a short paragraph, or finding them specific reading material, you make the entire political ideology look lazy and elitist.

    The common response I’ve gotten to the sentiment that I’ve just shared over the last 4 years is “fuck 'em, we don’t need people who aren’t willing to educate themselves.” As we can all see right now, this is incorrect. We need to garner support from people that we don’t like, and that means treating them with civility even when they don’t know things that we think they should.

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      3 days ago

      Just so I’m sure… You’re saying to pander to the uneducated and trick them into believing your side is right?

      People won’t change unless they want to. If they want to, then telling them what to look up in sufficient. If they don’t want to, there’s no point.

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        3 days ago

        No. I’m saying that there is a large group of people in this country who don’t strongly believe in anything. When they see one side saying “they’re eating the dogs and the cats, they want to trans your kids and that’s bad” and the other side saying “you should look up why what you just said it stupid,” they’re going to do a 2024 election and at best not show up.

        People won’t change unless they want to.

        You’re naive. Daryl Davis was able to unracist 200 members of the KKK. Do you think telling them to “look it up” would have been sufficient? Most people are open to change, but they won’t be convinced by someone that isn’t willing to put in a modicum of effort past “look it up.”

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            3 days ago

            For one I’m not black, so no. But also you don’t need to be. I provided him as proof against your idea that people will only change if they want to, and that if they want to, simply telling them to do more research is sufficient. There are options between “be a brave and charismatic black man venturing into the heart of a movement that exists to kill you,” and “leave snide comments on Lemmy.”

            You could, for example, engage in dialogue with someone, politely rebutting the incorrect assumptions they make without demanding that they rebut their own arguments for you. You may not convince many people this way, but you will convince more people than the snide remarks guy.