In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

  • Jax
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    1 month ago

    The crux of the issue presents itself.

    The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. You want to help create more MAGATs? Keep ignoring young men and the problems they have.

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      1 month ago

      You want to help create more MAGATs? Keep ignoring young men and the problems they have.

      What are out of power left-leaning women supposed to do to fix the problems with these losers? They voted for the “we have problems and we’re being ignored” party after listening to bro podcasts all day and they will now control three branches of government.

      Why is it ok for in power politicians to continually ignore the needs of the people voting for them? Why does nobody notice how “men’s problems” continue even as the spiteful fucks they vote for have massive amounts of power?

      Fixing young men isn’t up to childless, left leaning, powerless women.

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        1 month ago

        No, they’re blaming the Democratic party and its online advocates for not taking young men seriously as a voting demographic

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          1 month ago

          No, read their comment. They think women should fuck progressive men to stop them from becoming right wing.

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            1 month ago

            No, that’s a very naive and simplistic way of reading this thread. Jax’s comment

            […] You want to help create more MAGATs? Keep ignoring young men and the problems they have.

            Wasn’t supporting the literal suggestion that “women should just give up their bodies to these disgusting creatures for the good of the country,” it was regarding Eatspancakes84’s dismissive attitude towards the genuine problems that young men face.

            Problems that, I will add, the Republican party will not fix. Voters are stupid though, and vote based on vibes. If the vibe of one side is “I don’t give a shit about you,” and the vibe of the other side is “you matter and your problems are valid,” the average voter is more likely to vote for the latter, if at all.

            I’ll also add that women do in fact face more problems than men. Your rights are being eroded much faster than ours. My discussion of how to convince men to vote for our side should not be interpreted as dismissal of women’s issues. All I’m saying (and it is all that I’m saying) is that we need to avoid situations where apathetic or conservative men see our comments and think we don’t give a shit about them. Not because I want to protect the feelings of conservative men, but because we needed their votes, and we will need their votes to prevent another Trump win.

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              1 month ago

              What about your dismissive attitudes towards women and how it drives them away? What about the problems men refuse to fix that women bring up?

              You are catering to men who want to enslave us. I recommend the book “Stop Caretaking the Borderline or Narcissist.” It will show you that it’s pointless to cater to them. They were always going to be hostile.

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                What about your dismissive attitudes towards women and how it drives them away?

                Someone didn’t read my reply.

                I’ll also add that women do in fact face more problems than men. Your rights are being eroded much faster than ours. My discussion of how to convince men to vote for our side should not be interpreted as dismissal of women’s issues. All I’m saying (and it is all that I’m saying) is that we need to avoid situations where apathetic or conservative men see our comments and think we don’t give a shit about them. Not because I want to protect the feelings of conservative men, but because we needed their votes, and we will need their votes to prevent another Trump win.

                You can reply if you want, but I’m done

                • LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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                  1 month ago

                  I did and I dismissed your claim you werent dismissing women. Now you’re dismissing me again. Answer me. Stop dismissing me.

                  What about your dismissive attitude and how it drives women away? Women are an easier demographic to get to vote left, after all.