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arrow-up148arrow-down1external-linkTeenagers plan to flee as Kyiv faces pressure to call up the youngwww.thetimes.com☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 months agomessage-square18fedilink
minus-squaretheonlytruescotsmanlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up14arrow-down4·2 months agoSure seems like they’re winning.
minus-squaresexy_peach@feddit.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up5arrow-down9·2 months agoThey’re not winning. They’re trying to prevent the worst.
minus-squarejol@discuss.tchncs.delinkfedilinkarrow-up8·2 months agoHm teenage pregnancy and vaping I guess?
minus-squareCyberMonkey404@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up5·2 months agoReasonably certain those are already present in Ukraine
minus-squarehubobeslinkfedilinkarrow-up8arrow-down5·2 months agoPreventing the complete loss of their sovereignty—essentially preserving their nation in the face of aggression?
minus-squaretheonlytruescotsmanlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5arrow-down6·2 months ago…so they should’ve taken the first peace deal in 2014 before Russia backed the Republics of donetsk and luhansk in their uprising?
minus-squaresexy_peach@feddit.orglinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5arrow-down1·2 months agoWho guarantees that they get peace in return?
minus-squaretheonlytruescotsmanlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down5·2 months agoNo one can ever guarantee anything, but Russia wouldn’t fuck with them if there’s an actual deal and they abide by it instead of violating it.
minus-squarecatloaf@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up6arrow-down2·2 months agoThat’s a real big if, and history indicates it would be unlikely.
minus-squaresexy_peach@feddit.orglinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down4·2 months agoI understand the Ukrainians mistrust.
minus-squaretheonlytruescotsmanlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5arrow-down5·2 months agoWhy? They violated the previous treaty not Russia.
minus-squareB0rax@feddit.orglinkfedilinkarrow-up4arrow-down3·2 months agoLet’s not forget who is attacking and who is defending…
minus-squaretheonlytruescotsmanlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5arrow-down1·2 months agoLet’s not forget who broke their treaty precipitating the attack.
minus-squaremagikmw@lemm.eelinkfedilinkarrow-up5arrow-down5·2 months agoYou give up a finger, russians have always taken the whole arm.
minus-squaresexy_peach@feddit.orglinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down6·2 months agoBeing under russian occupation.
minus-squaredavel [he/him]@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up10arrow-down1·2 months agoI’m pretty sure being kidnapped off the streets and marched to front lines to die is worse, but okay.
Sure seems like they’re winning.
They’re not winning. They’re trying to prevent the worst.
Which would be?
Hm teenage pregnancy and vaping I guess?
Reasonably certain those are already present in Ukraine
Preventing the complete loss of their sovereignty—essentially preserving their nation in the face of aggression?
…so they should’ve taken the first peace deal in 2014 before Russia backed the Republics of donetsk and luhansk in their uprising?
Who guarantees that they get peace in return?
No one can ever guarantee anything, but Russia wouldn’t fuck with them if there’s an actual deal and they abide by it instead of violating it.
That’s a real big if, and history indicates it would be unlikely.
I understand the Ukrainians mistrust.
Why? They violated the previous treaty not Russia.
Let’s not forget who is attacking and who is defending…
Let’s not forget who broke their treaty precipitating the attack.
You give up a finger, russians have always taken the whole arm.
Being under russian occupation.
I’m pretty sure being kidnapped off the streets and marched to front lines to die is worse, but okay.