It could possibly be using some kind of recoil less/low recoil firing mechanism. All you need to fire a buckshot is a tube and a firing pin of some sort, the amount of recoil essentially just depends on how tightly you close the back end of the tube. A shoulder fired rifle obviously needs to close off the back completely, but this kind of drone could in principle have an open-ended firing tube.
The tradeoff for low/no recoil is of course less energy being imparted into the buckshot. However, I can’t imagine that you need a very high-energy projectile to take down these drones, so it may well be worth the tradeoff to improve the accuracy, not to mention the increased stability allowing you to manoeuvre immediately after firing.
Yes, but on a drone you have access to a battery, so there’s nothing preventing you from foregoing a classic reload mechanism and using a servo of some sort to reload if you want to reduce recoil.
Sorry, maybe we talked past each other here. How would using an open-ended firing tube that reloads using a battery-powered “loading arm” (I.e. some kind of servo-driven mechanism), increase recoil?
it doesn’t increase recoil. However by not diverting and using the recoil energy there is more recoil. Recoil is a lot of concentreted energy so wasting it makes no sense - in a drone where battery life is already a problem it is worse. I suspect recoil is lighter than a servo as well but that needs analisys
if the highest accuracy is needed than recoil systems cannot give you that. However his is a shotgun why by design is not accurate. Still if doing a rifle system for longer range shots different tradeoffs apply.
So there may be some lower bounds on what they can effectively use. It looks like there are double-aught .410 shells, but I’d guess that you wouldn’t be sending many balls downrange.
EDIT2: I was wondering about using a 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher firing flechette rounds earlier, as that’d let everyone in a squad carry something that’d have at least one round that’d put a lot of projectiles downrange quickly; one has to assume that a squad patrolling isn’t going to give up their assault rifles for shotguns or similar. NATO does have a 40mm canister round.
This is like how in World War I, pilots would shoot at each other with handguns.
I am surprised at how stable the drone firing the shotgun is after the gun fires. There appears to be very little recoil.
What’s a hard drive drone?
It could possibly be using some kind of recoil less/low recoil firing mechanism. All you need to fire a buckshot is a tube and a firing pin of some sort, the amount of recoil essentially just depends on how tightly you close the back end of the tube. A shoulder fired rifle obviously needs to close off the back completely, but this kind of drone could in principle have an open-ended firing tube.
The tradeoff for low/no recoil is of course less energy being imparted into the buckshot. However, I can’t imagine that you need a very high-energy projectile to take down these drones, so it may well be worth the tradeoff to improve the accuracy, not to mention the increased stability allowing you to manoeuvre immediately after firing.
Modern gun often use the recoil energy to reload and so there is little recoil. this technology dates to the late 1800’s and was in use in wwi.
Yes, but on a drone you have access to a battery, so there’s nothing preventing you from foregoing a classic reload mechanism and using a servo of some sort to reload if you want to reduce recoil.
That would increase recoil which on a small drone would be important to reduce.
Sorry, maybe we talked past each other here. How would using an open-ended firing tube that reloads using a battery-powered “loading arm” (I.e. some kind of servo-driven mechanism), increase recoil?
it doesn’t increase recoil. However by not diverting and using the recoil energy there is more recoil. Recoil is a lot of concentreted energy so wasting it makes no sense - in a drone where battery life is already a problem it is worse. I suspect recoil is lighter than a servo as well but that needs analisys
if the highest accuracy is needed than recoil systems cannot give you that. However his is a shotgun why by design is not accurate. Still if doing a rifle system for longer range shots different tradeoffs apply.
It was a mistranslation from Telegram’s built-in translator. Here is the correct translation:
They don’t say what gauge they’re firing, which would be a factor. Might be less than 12-gauge.
If you figure that weight of the gun is going to cut into flight time, you might want a light gun if possible.
EDIT: The video here shows Ukrainian soldiers testing shotguns against drones. The guy says that #3 buckshot is inadequate to break the blades:
https://www.twz.com/land/anti-drone-weapon-with-24-barrels-firing-buckshot-like-rounds-emerges-on-russian-buggies
So there may be some lower bounds on what they can effectively use. It looks like there are double-aught .410 shells, but I’d guess that you wouldn’t be sending many balls downrange.
EDIT2: I was wondering about using a 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher firing flechette rounds earlier, as that’d let everyone in a squad carry something that’d have at least one round that’d put a lot of projectiles downrange quickly; one has to assume that a squad patrolling isn’t going to give up their assault rifles for shotguns or similar. NATO does have a 40mm canister round.
a semi-automatic shotgun has a lot less recoil than a single shot gun because it uses the recoil energy to cycle in the next round.
Not sure what type of action they have on these guns
Could be recoilless, you’d loose range by having the breech open / semi open but the trade off is not ripping the attacking drone apart.
I guess you could load the shells twice as hot
Since they’re all plastic, it may not be a regular level of shotgun force.