Mind you, it isn’t every person, but all the vegan communities and instances are currently run by militants of some degree. The .world one is the least militant that I’ve run across.
They aren’t all rude, but definitely have the kind of thinking that leads to rudeness eventually.
Which really sucks because there’s plenty of really chill vegans on lemmy. But you can’t talk to them in vegan spaces without it being a problem unless you’re parroting the scripture of vegan to their satisfaction.
Being real, I kinda wish someone would start a decent relaxed community.
Pretty sure my other comment was a well thought out discussion of moral absolutism versus harm reduction. My ethics are relativist, even leaning towards moral skepticism. If you are not acquainted with these concepts then that’s fine but it’s a real position that many hold which creates a valid lens for why veganism (or really, all universalist ethics) tends to attract militants. Not “just arguing” which is you being dismissive. And kind of rude.
Like I said, I am just sharing a lens which attempts to analyze why these communities are like this. I am personally about 2/3 vegan, but find most vegan communities insufferable and felt like I had relevant perspective to share.
The idea of not eating meat isn’t “wrong,” and i never said sny such thing. Again, as a moral skeptic, that’s like saying “not eating meat is blue.” It’s a meaninglass statement.
Then I’m sorry, your first two comments made me think otherwise. I’ve been seeing a lot of toxicity and bad actors recently.
I agree with you from a personal diet perspective and as a Buddhist, I don’t think it’s wrong. I do think there are ethical virtues and it benefits many beings from not eating animal products though :)
Right now, nowhere on lemmy that I’ve found.
Mind you, it isn’t every person, but all the vegan communities and instances are currently run by militants of some degree. The .world one is the least militant that I’ve run across.
They aren’t all rude, but definitely have the kind of thinking that leads to rudeness eventually.
Which really sucks because there’s plenty of really chill vegans on lemmy. But you can’t talk to them in vegan spaces without it being a problem unless you’re parroting the scripture of vegan to their satisfaction.
Being real, I kinda wish someone would start a decent relaxed community.
I will try now at https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/plantbased
Is vegan cat food allowed?
I wrote a reply then saw your other comment and realized you’re just arguing
Pretty sure my other comment was a well thought out discussion of moral absolutism versus harm reduction. My ethics are relativist, even leaning towards moral skepticism. If you are not acquainted with these concepts then that’s fine but it’s a real position that many hold which creates a valid lens for why veganism (or really, all universalist ethics) tends to attract militants. Not “just arguing” which is you being dismissive. And kind of rude.
I don’t mean to be rude but you come to a post asking about good vegan subs saying why it’s wrong. Read the room
Like I said, I am just sharing a lens which attempts to analyze why these communities are like this. I am personally about 2/3 vegan, but find most vegan communities insufferable and felt like I had relevant perspective to share.
The idea of not eating meat isn’t “wrong,” and i never said sny such thing. Again, as a moral skeptic, that’s like saying “not eating meat is blue.” It’s a meaninglass statement.
Then I’m sorry, your first two comments made me think otherwise. I’ve been seeing a lot of toxicity and bad actors recently.
I agree with you from a personal diet perspective and as a Buddhist, I don’t think it’s wrong. I do think there are ethical virtues and it benefits many beings from not eating animal products though :)
Thanks for taking the rudeness claim seriously! :) I fully agree with you.
Previously I started a plant based community on Lemmy.world maybe I will try to actually be active. You’ve inspired me
Wasn’t .world the only one where an admin decided to go on a rampage?
Nah, just the most egregious incident. And even that only got attention because it’s such a big instance.