• JohnDClay
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    6 days ago

    Do we have an effective bird flu vaccine yet? The trouble is the couple of years before one is created.

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          And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.

          Sounds like he was suggesting injecting disinfectant (bleach) to me.

          He clarified later that that’s not what he meant, but I think he misspoke in the moment.

          It wouldn’t be through injection. We’re talking about through almost a cleaning, sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work. But it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object.

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            Sounds like he was suggesting injecting disinfectant (bleach) to me.

            https://www.cdc.gov/infection-control/hcp/disinfection-sterilization/chemical-disinfectants.html

            There are all types of “disinfectants”. Settling on bleach is your own hysterics. And I would be in strong disagreement that “And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning.” would be interpreted as injecting the disinfectant itself. There are many materials that we inject into bodies to take care of infections in a manner that could be “doing something like that”… Including what we call a “Vaccine”.

            Further, https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/snopes-bias-credibility/

            Snopes is left leaning. And even they understand that isn’t what he meant or was saying. I’m just tired of seeing this obviously incorrect shit. It makes people shy away from voting for more sane politicians. The easiest way you entrench people is by stating things that are obviously incorrect. Then they just point at it and say “well they’re obviously wrong about that, they must be wrong about everything else too”.

            And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning.

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              Trump suggested injecting disinfectants. That’s what the quote said. That’s a really bad idea, whether it’s bleach or rubbing alcohol. Theoretically he could have been talking about injecting disinfectant into porus surfaces rather than people, but that isn’t the immediate interpretation.

              Trump spoke carelessly, and said something dangerous as a result. He shouldn’t have, and it’s okay to critique him for doing so. We don’t want a President saying really stupid stuff without thinking, even if he doesn’t mean it.

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      We’ve been making flu vaccines for a long time now, and the flu has always been a virus that comes in various strains so you need to renew the vaccine frequently (usually once a year, as opposed to other vaccines that can last you a decade), and the medical industry needs to know which strains to make vaccines for.

      Part of the thing with covid was that it was novel, and the vaccines were as well, because they needed to be not just developed fast, but deployed fast.

      This isn’t the first time H5N1 is making the rounds, and there have been vaccines for it for over a decade. Depending on where you live, your country may have a stockpile of vaccines or just ordered one.

      The problems humanity will face with the virus is one of uneven distribution of vaccines due to uneven distribution of wealth, poor health care policies, and science denialism / vaccine conspiracy nightmares.