Summary

Episcopal Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde refused to apologize after delivering a sermon at the National Cathedral that criticized Trump’s anti-LGBTQ+ and immigration policies, calling for compassion and mercy for marginalized groups.

Trump responded by attacking Budde on Truth Social, labeling her a “Radical Left hard line Trump hater.”

Budde, known for prior criticism of Trump, said she stands by her message and has received both support and threats.

She emphasized the need for dignity and respect in public discourse to counter the “culture of contempt.”

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    6 hours ago

    “Radical Left hard line Trump hater.”

    That’s his go to for anyone who disagrees with him. It’s almost comical how leftists on Lemmy do the same thing with calling everybody and everything a Nazi or fascist if you don’t agree with them. The words just lose meaning after a while.

    I can already predict the onslaught of “BUT THEY ARE NAZIS” responses completely and utterly missing the point.

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      So WTF do you call someone who acts like a Nazi, talks like a Nazi, even does the damn salute on live TV, but doesn’t call themselves a Nazi?

      There is actually a word for that. “crypto-fascist”. The nonsense you just spouted is exactly what they want. The benefit of the doubt. They’ll chip away at decent society little by little, slowly boiling the frog, until they go all the way to bringing back death camps and we’ll still have people like you thinking “well, they don’t admit to being Nazis, soo…”

      I knew a couple elderly Germans who could have told you all about how their society slowly slid into hell.

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        5 hours ago

        Perfect example of missing the point - complete with a straw-man - thanks!

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            5 hours ago

            Take, for example, this post: https://sh.itjust.works/post/31532172/16240830

            “Fuck you nazi” in reply to somebody simply disagreeing over whether the Democrats should be held to blame for a new FCC investigation.

            I’ve been called a nazi for simply saying things like “voting for Kamala would have led to better outcomes than voting for Trump”.

            Everyone is Nazis!

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              Well, that is a shitty thread with a knee-jerk Nazi response, which is froth-at-the-mouth stupid, but to be clear, you claim mere disagreement when instead you attacked the individual with supposition and derision rather than just disagreement.

              If we are going to avoid having an echo chamber here, we have to raise the level of discourse and avoid ad hominem attacks please.

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              4 hours ago

              One random person on the internet vs the President of the USA. Whose voice do you think holds more weight?

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      I can see how some people can be a tad dramatic at times with rhetoric, but the writing is on the wall in regard to the Nazi salute Elon Musk did at his speech. You have to call a pig, a pig, no matter how much lipstick it might have on to distract you from the fact otherwise.

      But I digress a bit. What exactly is the point you were referring to, that I and others seem to be missing? That Trump’s words are just words and because other people who don’t have anywhere near the power/authority/wealth say things in a similar manner back at him/his “friends” his actions and speech should be dismissed, justified even??

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        What exactly is the point you were referring to, that I and others seem to be missing?

        Blessed be - somebody actually asking for clarification before chiding me.

        The number of times I’ve been called a “genocide supporter” or “Nazi” on Lemmy for simply saying that Kamala would have been a better choice than Trump is f’ing ridiculous. Or that “yes Nazis have freedom of speech” also gets me called a Nazi. If I hear the ridiculous “Nazi Bar” story one more time I’ll lose it.

        Anyone disagreeing with leftist ideals EVEN WHILE AGREEING IN SPIRIT is called a Nazi on here all the time. The word is losing all meaning.

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          Anyone disagreeing with leftist ideals EVEN WHILE AGREEING IN SPIRIT is called a Nazi on here all the time. The word is losing all meaning.

          I definitely agree with this. It’s one of the first things I found jarring when I joined Lemmy, that the fascist label is thrown around way too much. Everything that someone doesn’t like or agree with are fascists, or tankies. There seems to be very little nuance.

          I’ve seen people call Lemmy.world, shitjustworks, blahaj and hexbear instances fascist.

          If people keep throwing it around liberally where it doesn’t make any sense then people will stop listening or eye roll when you try and point out when someone is being a literal nazi.

          It’s basically a boy who cried wolf situation.