• Skiluros
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    6 days ago

    I genuinely hope something will come out of this, but knowing the slowness and reactive approach of European institutions I don’t have any hope.

    Rather than talk, it would make much more sense to hold a formal conference after achieving results in agreed upon behind the scenes negotiations. Something along the lines of:

    • Full blockage of occupied Königsberg. Banning of all russian traffic in the Baltic sea.
    • Immediate sanctions of EU company executives servicing the russian market in any capacity (they know the shipments to Kyrgyzstan aren’t actually going to Kyrgyzstan, they are not stupid).
    • Targetted massive ballistic strike (50+) on russia military and C2 installation in cooperation with Ukraine to give cover (perhaps even Lubyanka if it makes sense). Just lie and say it’s recently developed Ukrainian ballistics.
    • By this point it would make sense to at least send covert military personal into Europe, make it limited to AA coverage in Western/Central Ukraine if needed.

    I recognize that this may sound unrealistic, but most (all?) geopolticial achievements/breakthroughs/realignments were done with courage and a desire to win. Not “bla bla” or “but what about this or that”.

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      5 days ago

      EU is slow because it respects the participation of everyone and followa due process and we don’t have a structure who would facilitate an authoritarian taking charge

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      5 days ago

      Kaliningrad belongs to Russia. We respect international borders. By suggesting anything is up for the taking if you just have the military to do it you support putlers worldview. Please don’t do that.

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      5 days ago

      occupied Königsberg.

      Next you want everything west of Gdańsk to be Germany again?

      Then you surely also want to support a Polish invasion of what today is western Ukraine, since it is occupied Poland in your eyes?

      What a load of bullshit.

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      5 days ago

      Königsberg

      The Oder-Neiße line is absolute. Please don’t call that place by its anachronistic historic German name.

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        5 days ago

        Yeah, i am getting mayor Reich revisionst vibes too. Calling Kaliningrad “occupied” means to also consider western Poland to be occupied Germany and western Ukraine to be occupied Poland.

        This kind of revisionist talk is not helping central Europe, quite the contrary.