I went through my bookmarks and found an old hacker news discussion thread where people are going in circles with some quite sincerely insisting that crows are more intelligent or every bit as intelligent as humans and that it’s a kind of specieism and arrogance to suggest humans are more intelligent.
I felt like I was losing my mind reading that thread, which I think is why I bookmarked it.
I get appreciating the remarkable intelligence of animals and understanding their capabilities and the application of different forms of intelligence in different contexts. And the importance of having humility when it comes to understanding human intelligence and how a lot of our productive capacity comes from standing on the shoulder of giants. But take all of those caveats and add them all together and none of them I think at the end of the day amount to the idea that we should be uncertain about whether humans are more intelligent than crows.
I think there’s a trap here of vortex of excessive humility that seems like a virtuous principle, but ends up missing the forest for the trees and putting people in the preposterous position of insisting that there’s nothing special about humans building jumbo jets or being able to run hospitals compared to crows who apparently in the right circumstances could if they wanted to.
So I’m not crazy, right? Can reasonable people agree that humans are more intelligent than crows? And if that question sounds like a crazy question to ask in the first place, I’m glad you agree. But check out the Hacker News thread and try not to lose your mind.
I don’t have any credentials that make this an informed opinion.
With that disclaimer, have you ever trained dogs?
You hear things being said like a dog is as smart as a toddler, and it’s supposed to indicate that the dog is really smart.
Have you ever trained toddlers? They aren’t as smart as most dogs.
But smart how? Problem solving? Language acquisition? Logic?
Intelligence isn’t one thing. It’s a complex of systems that allow an entity to navigate and hopefully thrive in a given environment. Part of that isn’t even conscious. It comes from how our brains deal with memory, and there’s only so much you can do about it.
In any real sense that matters, no; crows aren’t are smart as humans. But it’s only a matter of degrees of complexity from the various articles and documentaries about the little buggers. They seem to think in similar ways, just not with the same capacity in any given way. Like, they seem to understand the basics of comparison of numbers, but they don’t do math.
But they do learn new things amazingly fast. Faster than some humans I’ve known. A lot actually. That’s one part of intelligence. A big part.
I genuinely believe that if environmental conditions ever favored them developing a similar kind of intelligence as we have, they wouldn’t take that many millennia to be taking on basic algebra. They’re one of the animals that seem like a candidate to do what humans have done, evolving brain power to be maximized as a survival trait. A lot of what humans are, physically, is in support of the kind of thinking we can do.
Like I said, I don’t have a background that qualifies me to speak with authority about this kind of thing. But I do have the type of intelligence that could. Crows don’t, so I’ll take that as a win ;)