• AllHailTheSheep
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    racism requires a power structure to be historically against the oppressed. you cannot be racist against white people. you can be prejudiced, and I suppose you could make some argument that the above is prejudiced if you tried really hard, but calling it racism disregards the basis of what racism is

    edit: for people down voting, please go read some books, take a class from your local community college, or just talk to your neighbors. this statement isn’t meant to be decisive, nor would it be in any race and diversity class.

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      You are projecting an insane amount, and you can be racist against any group of people. And you made yourself sound racist af.

      Do you not know about Nazi Germany? Miss that part in school? And you are telling others to read books?

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      So if a white person says “I hate all black people because they are black”, that’s racist. But if a black person says “I hate all white people because they are white”, that’s just prejudiced and somehow not as bad? Sounds to me like you might be racist.

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      Except you’ve confused the definition from common use to sociological use, you’d understand the difference if you hadn’t stopped before critical thinking

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      Racism is prejudice based on race. The addition of a power structure was added to make racism against Whites more palatable. It’s a mix of denial and rationalization. And it’s racist as hell.

      Edit: I assume you also think it’s impossible to be sexist against men? Or heterophobic against straight people? All this is is an attempt to whitewash racism against people who look like the people doing the oppressing. It’s a generalization based on race, which is—by definition—racist. Why not direct your anger at the incredibly tiny group of people actually creating the power structures of the world, rather than funneling it into useless and hypocritical counter-racism?

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      So a white Zimbabwean can say the most vile racist slurs against black people because white people were oppressed in Zimbabwe…

      Interesting paradigme…

      But the problem is that the internet is not one country with one history.

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        They are talking about America. You need to always assume they’re talking about America, other countries don’t really exist.

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        where did you gain that I thought racism was ok from that? I’m merely pointing out that it’s a false equivalency

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      Prejudice is a broader term that include race among other factors.

      Power is not necessary to be racist. My neighbor is super racist but has absolutely no power.

      Power is part of the equation as a multipier. It creates greater negative impact.

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        your neighbor may not have individual power, but his statements still carry more weight than the opposite. there’s a reason (most) white people would never dream of saying the n word, and that there’s no equivalent for the other way around, and it’s because there’s an inherent power dynamic baked into that word and its origins

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          I agree with you, but I’m not arguing about the relative weight/ power/emotional damage etc. of one racist word against another. Those words are still racist independently of who holds the power.

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          Please go to another country and experience the exact opposite. In South Africa the EFF political party publicly chants to kill all white people.

          “I will only be offended if a white person says the n-word” - so you are an absolute racist…

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      That’s like saying using deadly violence in self defense isn’t killing because it’s self defense, not attacking. But it is still killing, just a form that’s treated differently.