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    In 200 years people will ask in disbelief why such old forests were logged down.

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        We know why. Because Trump sees no value in anything beyond being right. He is right to tariff Canada, because the Canadians are mean. And he is right to have national parks stripped bare, because Canada is tariffed. It’s just flawless logic. /s

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      That’s if the planet survives till then, which at the rate things are going no way we make it that long

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        The planet will be just fine. I’d wager that life will continue, the earth will still be filled with living creatures for a long time to come.

        It just won’t include us. Or most of the things we care about.

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          I feel bad for all the creatures that we will be taking down with us.

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        The planet will survive. Humans may not survive, but I’m no longer so sure that’s a bad thing…

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      Check out where our forests were at at the end of the 1800’s. 90% of the trees in Michigan were gone. All current forests are new growth and under 150 years old here in Michigan.

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        mostly the pacific northwest. where also the giant and coastal redwood is.

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      The answer is because patriots aren’t willing to defend them by force.

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      Please stop spouting this propaganda. We have less than 2 decades of western white civilisation left. Other continents far less. It’s not helpful and it propagates this hopium and drives people to complacency.

      E: your downvotes are as futile as the hopium propaganda. Truth hurts, but sets you free.

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        People don’t seem to be aware that there are estimates that there could be 1.2 BILLION climate refugees by 2050. And it’s not like they all just decide to migrate in that year.

        We think things look fascist now? If we do not stomp out fascism immediately, there’s going to be mass genocide. If people stop being complacent right now, we could do so much better.

        I don’t have my hopes up though.

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          Yep. There this complacent coddling that seems to have happened where people sit on fences for eons

          “Let’s wait and see if we really do break 1.5ºC of warming. It’s too early to tell now” “Let’s wait and see if Trump does full Hitler. He’s got a unique style, but so many people voting for him can’t be wrong” “Let’s wait and see if we need to divest our USA interests and our military reliance. They have a difficult moment now, but surely will bounce back. They always have”

          In a way, during peacetime, there is a sense of security in that fence sitting, but now, during wartime, it is the thing that costs hundreds of thousands of lives.

          We’re in for a really tough ride.

          Also, for those interested, there are safe spaces for people who have come off the fence. [email protected] and [email protected] and [email protected] being the most prominent on Lemmy atm.

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        Damn, that bait is so obvious, a newborn fish just looked at me like I was crazy for thinking it would fall for it.