• Jiggle_Physics
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    6 days ago

    that poll says 23% not 10. Now about that poll.

    It was conducted by the victims of communism memorial fund, which is a US government organization created specifically to shift the public opinion away from communism. This is also the place that came up with the infamous “communism killed 100 million people” stat. A stat that required them using the dead nazis, german citizens, etc. from WW2, and not even just the ones killed by the USSR. Basically saying that when the USSR killed enemy combatants, and civilians, it was result of communism causing mass death, and completely ignored everyone else’s contributions to those number, even pinning their contributions on the soviets as well.

    The write-up on the poll describes how they compared the changes in statistics over time by comparing groups that matched frames like age, ethnicity, sex, etc. They tell you how many people they surveyed. They give the general subject of the questions, and their answer numbers. They do not describe how they contacted these people to take the survey, where they conducted the survey, or provide the actual, verbatim, questions asked by the survey. They also have answer options that seem to be generally wrong, or loaded, or in some way just poor. For instance, when it asks what socialism, and marxism are, the following are the answer options they provided:

    When the government owns all property and controls nearly 100% of the national economy and makes all important decisions about prices, wages, and job placements, as in the Soviet Union

    Means a free market economy with private property, but one where the government provides ample social welfare benefits, as in many Scandinavian and Western European countries.

    Means a free market economy with private property where the government intervenes when necessary to create an even playing field for all citizens and businesses.

    Just a vague new name for more or less what the Democratic Party in the US supports today

    Refers to a new system that has not yet been created.

    As you can see, none of these answers are good possible answers to define marxism, or socialism, for a large number of reasons. They also state the percentage of people “incorrectly” said communism killed less than 100 million people. Again, this number is BS that is inflated with deaths from combat in WW2 when the USSR didn’t start the war, etc.

    The only people taking this poll seriously are right wing organizations like the cato institute, and it’s million branch organizations it funds, right wing media, etc. Even moderate right wing sources cast doubt on the veracity of the poll.