“This was not reckless driving. This was murder,” the judge said before she read out Mackenzie Shirilla’s verdict Monday afternoon.

  • @ryathal
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    This is why suicidal people are dangerous, it’s a relatively small change from killing yourself, to killing others.

    • @zaph
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      This is why pastry chefs are dangerous, it’s a relatively small change from baking your bread, to baking others.

      • Yepthatsme
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        This is why being baked while baking with a baker is dangerous. You get too baked and you might get baked by the baker for making bad cakes.

      • @[email protected]
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        Baking bread and stuff is easier. Have you seen hot fat people have gotten? No way I am getting an adult into my oven.

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      @ryathal @agressivelyPassive

      Having suicidal ideation is in no way, shape or form the same as being the perpetrator of a murder-suicide. Neither is being suicidal a lead-in to becoming a murderer.

      • @ryathal
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        Driving a car at 100mph into a building is more than ideation. That’s attempted suicide.

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        As such, it is clear that suicides tend to have high levels of aggressive–destructive impulsive behaviours, generally referred to as impulsive–aggressive behaviours. These have been operationally defined in suicide studies as a tendency to react with animosity or overt hostility without consideration to possible consequences, when piqued or under stress.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277022/

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          Did you read anything else in that paper…? The words around that statement? Even the abstract?

          Or did you google what you wanted to see and post the result, because that paper is not about people harming others whilst attempting suicide. It is barely tangentially about that.

          (it’s about the impact of aggressive-impulsive tendencies on the suicide…r themselves)

    • @[email protected]
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      No there may be a small chance of collateral damage, such as this case. But suicidal thinking does not make you think of killing others. You’re clearly lucky enough to have never had suicidal ideation, but it never comes near the kind of thoughts that want to kill others

      • @ryathal
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        It changes when it comes to acting. If you have the gun to your head, shooting someone telling you to stop is also highly likely.

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          Let’s see some stats on that one because being an abusive murder is a lot different than suicidality.

          There is no correlation between her wanting to kill people and her potential suicidality. They just coincidentally line up in this case.

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      I have a relative who was recently given a DUI.

      They went to the store, sober, and bought a handle of vodka (1.75 liters) consumed the vast majority, and drove around.

      He wanted to die in a head on collision. Selfish fuck.

      I don’t have a problem with people having the freedom to decide enough is enough, but don’t harm others in the process, at least more so than the death would cause. Especially innocent unrelated people.