As much as I hate reddit right now, I have a hard time seeing the problem with any of this. I supported the blackouts. I think they were successful in getting the message out. Mods are volunteers, and I hold many of them in high esteem. (Just not the nutty power mods) But they don’t “own” the subreddits, in my opinion. They are stewards of them.
The users are the ones who made the communities what they are. If they want their subreddits back, and the mods are the only ones saying it should stay closed, then remove the mods that are refusing to re-open. I don’t see how that’s a problem.
Even if only a minority of users want the sub reopened, do it. If they want to continue to participate the community they’ve been using for years, who is anyone else to say they can’t? It’d be like half of a football team saying they don’t want to play anymore and then saying the other half can’t play amymore either. That’s nonsense.
People who don’t want to use the subreddit can just… unsubscribe and not use it. Delete their account. I do fully support users deleting their own contributions, and I think it’s super crappy that comments are being undeleted.
I don’t get why people are saying that this notice is a threat. It’s just a statement of what is going to happen. If users want their subreddit back, remove the mods and restore the sub. I just don’t see mods as “owners” of subreddits. They set the tone, they set the rules, and they enforce the rules, but all of that should always be with the consent of the governed.
It’s clear the reddit admins don’t care about, well, much of anything. They themselves are bad steward of the site they created. I’m sad to see it go the way it’s going. I spent a lot of years there. But I’m here now, and hopefully Lemmy will thrive and be a better version of what reddit tried to be.
As much as I hate reddit right now, I have a hard time seeing the problem with any of this. I supported the blackouts. I think they were successful in getting the message out. Mods are volunteers, and I hold many of them in high esteem. (Just not the nutty power mods) But they don’t “own” the subreddits, in my opinion. They are stewards of them.
The users are the ones who made the communities what they are. If they want their subreddits back, and the mods are the only ones saying it should stay closed, then remove the mods that are refusing to re-open. I don’t see how that’s a problem.
Even if only a minority of users want the sub reopened, do it. If they want to continue to participate the community they’ve been using for years, who is anyone else to say they can’t? It’d be like half of a football team saying they don’t want to play anymore and then saying the other half can’t play amymore either. That’s nonsense.
People who don’t want to use the subreddit can just… unsubscribe and not use it. Delete their account. I do fully support users deleting their own contributions, and I think it’s super crappy that comments are being undeleted.
I don’t get why people are saying that this notice is a threat. It’s just a statement of what is going to happen. If users want their subreddit back, remove the mods and restore the sub. I just don’t see mods as “owners” of subreddits. They set the tone, they set the rules, and they enforce the rules, but all of that should always be with the consent of the governed.
It’s clear the reddit admins don’t care about, well, much of anything. They themselves are bad steward of the site they created. I’m sad to see it go the way it’s going. I spent a lot of years there. But I’m here now, and hopefully Lemmy will thrive and be a better version of what reddit tried to be.